Home charging

[Trevel]

I’m deliberating to get a home charger £840 podpoint installed

I probably only do 8000 miles a year if that, i went to a super charger it cost me £21 so probably 2 years before I would break even

I have been offered a gen 3 Tesla charger for £90 and then I presume around £400 for a leccy to fit not sure which way to jump any advice please

 

[ewoodrick]

How many years do you expect to be driving an EV?

And how much is your time worth, spent sitting at a Supercharger.

Most people find that charging at home has numerous advantages beyond the basic cost.

 

[Trevel]

How many years do you expect to be driving an EV?

And how much is your time worth, spent sitting at a Supercharger.

Most people find that charging at home has numerous advantages beyond the basic cost.

At the moment I would never go back to ice but could be just a honeymoon period
Did master solitaire in the time spent watching the world go buy
But it would make life easier plug in then bed and probably future proofs me too

Forgot to add we are getting 4 chargers at work what I can use 4 hours max for free

 

[KennethS]

But it would make life easier plug in then bed and probably future proofs me too

Probably goes without saying but home charging will cost less than using public charging, in most cases substantially so. Per kWh (not factoring in the cost of the home charge point installation). So convenience and charging at lower prices.

 

[andyorkney]

So if you are doing the average UK commute of less than 40 miles per day you might well be fine charging via 13 amp ‘granny’ charger. You’ll probably easily cover the 45-50% to 80% for daily driving (if you’re doing the UK average).

 

[HenryT]

So if you are doing the average UK commute of less than 40 miles per day you might well be fine charging via 13 amp ‘granny’ charger. You’ll probably easily cover the 45-50% to 80% for daily driving (if you’re doing the UK average).

Second that - and with the benefit of free charging at work why spend any more?

 

[spdpsba]

have been offered a gen 3 Tesla charger for £90 and then I presume around £400 for a leccy to fit not sure which way to jump

Are you sure it is only £90?.

Home charging is above all else convenience, convenience and more convenience.

There will be occasions when you can’t go to office, or weekends where you have to travel somewhere or going to airport from home. Also, circumstances changes, suddenly you may change job and the new one may be 40miles away from home. All these things have happened. Bit of future proofing is good.

 

[Trevel]

Are you sure it is only £90?.

Home charging is above all else convenience, convenience and more convenience.

There will be occasions when you can’t go to office, or weekends where you have to travel somewhere or going to airport from home. Also, circumstances changes, suddenly you may change job and the new one may be 40miles away from home. All these things have happened. Bit of future proofing is good.

Yep £90 gumtree I know it could be of the back of a lorry says the car was totaled so no need for it sent me pics of the unit says it works perfectly at £90 do I take a chance or the old saying if it’s too good to be true and all that


Won’t be changing jobs Been there 36 years but still the idea of being future proofed is not a bad one but could get away with a granny charger as could walk to work if I wanted

 

[spdpsba]

Yep £90 gumtree I know it could be of the back of a lorry says the car was totaled so no need for it sent me pics of the unit says it works perfectly at £9

If it works then go ahead and invest that little in home charger. I have been using the pod point one now close to 4 years, I am sure I have recovered the £350 I put in during installation. They used to give some grant in those days. It is not the most eye catching thing but it is in one of the corner and works.

 

[Trevel]

If there was a grant I wouldn’t hesitate don’t know why they stopped it,a labour government might bring it back but probably not

 

[ewoodrick]

At the moment I would never go back to ice but could be just a honeymoon period
Did master solitaire in the time spent watching the world go buy
But it would make life easier plug in then bed and probably future proofs me too

Forgot to add we are getting 4 chargers at work what I can use 4 hours max for free

Unless you take the car to lunch, that 4 hour limitation really makes is far from desirable, unless you NEED to charge.

Charging at home just removes charging from the equation. The car is always ready. It's easily worth that price.

 

[blitzsah]

Can’t you use the granny charger? That is low annual mileage.

 

[Overworked]

Another vote for the granny charger. It will charge at 2kW - the same as your kettle uses. It will equate to 10mph charging speed. More than sufficient for your use as you could put in 120 miles overnight.

The ones at your work could be 7kW or if 3 phase you could get 11kW (because your onboard inverter is limited to that maximum), and you will get about 25-30mph charging speed. So the same amount in a shorter time - at a very favourable price too

 

[Kansalis]

My M3 has only done 11,000 miles in just over 2 years due to working at home permanently but I wouldn't think twice about installing a home charger at that price, to be honest. The convenience alone is justification enough IMO. After having EVs for around 5 years I can honestly say not needing to refuel anywhere other than home or work is one of the biggest selling points to move away from ICE.

I'm fortunate enough that my longest regular trips to family, friends & occasional office visit are still (just!) within battery range without charging away from home, so that certainly helps. I've only used a SuC 3 times I think.

 

[MrBadger]

I’m deliberating to get a home charger £840 podpoint installed

I probably only do 8000 miles a year if that, i went to a super charger it cost me £21 so probably 2 years before I would break even

We had to use public charging for first few months - trust me, the novelty of making a special trip to charge the car soon wears off.

We have been using 10A home charging since, in addition to a typical weekly free 30-40% topup regular visit that typically uses 15-20% for the round trip to get there/back. But it does mean that if we time things right we do get to the weekend with a decent charge.

But it does require a little mental dexterity to manage sometimes, but that’s normally for exceptional circumstances such as unscheduled journeys or failed charges.

Otherwise that works for us.

We do have a Gen 2 TWC that needs to be installed. Had it for nearly 5 years. Would love to install it but electricians either take one look at installing a customer supplied wall connector and say no, or want to charge an eye watering amount to do so (for a fully compliant install), and I say no. Gen 3 is slightly easier to install than Gen 2, but I have found electricians to be unwilling to venture into an area that they think is specialist.

But I probably need to get around to getting that all sorted, and probably ditch the TWC and get an alternative installer supplied unit so save the hassle. But I need an additional fuse box installed first to connect other planned expansion and not just a dedicated EVSE unit. So back to square one of finding an electrician willing to undertake something a little less routine.

 

[Jason71]

I’m deliberating to get a home charger £840 podpoint installed

I probably only do 8000 miles a year if that, i went to a super charger it cost me £21 so probably 2 years before I would break even

I have been offered a gen 3 Tesla charger for £90 and then I presume around £400 for a leccy to fit not sure which way to jump any advice please

If you sign up to Octopus go intelligent then overnight rates are 7.5p ( referral codes are available). The off peak rate at the nearest supercharger to wigan is 43p. So based on 3miles per kwh (which is realistic including charger losses etc) then by my calcs you save around £1000 in the first year. Seems like a no brainer to me.

 

[Trevel]

We had to use public charging for first few months - trust me, the novelty of making a special trip to charge the car soon wears off.

We have been using 10A home charging since, in addition to a typical weekly free 30-40% topup regular visit that typically uses 15-20% for the round trip to get there/back. But it does mean that if we time things right we do get to the weekend with a decent charge.

But it does require a little mental dexterity to manage sometimes, but that’s normally for exceptional circumstances such as unscheduled journeys or failed charges.

Otherwise that works for us.

We do have a Gen 2 TWC that needs to be installed. Had it for nearly 5 years. Would love to install it but electricians either take one look at installing a customer supplied wall connector and say no, or want to charge an eye watering amount to do so (for a fully compliant install), and I say no. Gen 3 is slightly easier to install than Gen 2, but I have found electricians to be unwilling to venture into an area that they think is specialist.

But I probably need to get around to getting that all sorted, and probably ditch the TWC and get an alternative installer supplied unit so save the hassle. But I need an additional fuse box installed first to connect other planned expansion and not just a dedicated EVSE unit. So back to square one of finding an electrician willing to undertake something a little less routine.

I thought I had an electrician sorted but he’s gone underground instead of just saying I can’t be arsed he’s avoiding me

so probably podpoint is the way forward do I need surge protection extra £100 if it was needed for safety it would be included in the price not an optional extra wouldn’t it ?

 

[Trevel]

If you sign up to Octopus go intelligent then overnight rates are 7.5p ( referral codes are available). The off peak rate at the nearest supercharger to wigan is 43p. So based on 3miles per kwh (which is realistic including charger losses etc) then by my calcs you save around £1000 in the first year. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Yeah I’m already on octopus so will look into a tariff change at some point and yeah the home charger is probably best all round cheers

 

[thewishy]

If you sign up to Octopus go intelligent then overnight rates are 7.5p ( referral codes are available). The off peak rate at the nearest supercharger to wigan is 43p. So based on 3miles per kwh (which is realistic including charger losses etc) then by my calcs you save around £1000 in the first year. Seems like a no brainer to me.

I'll add that preconditioning from cold will eat 5-10% of the battery, plus the mileage to drive to the supercharger.
Unless you have plans to move shortly, get a proper charger in

 

[KennethS]

Unless you have plans to move shortly, get a proper charger in

There's also a chance a future homeowner would assign some value to the existence of an EV charge point. Not suggesting it would fully cover the installation cost but I'd be surprised if no value was attributed to it.