Yes, but in most cases they also honestly believe what they are printing (or commenting on TV).
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Yes, but in most cases they also honestly believe what they are printing (or commenting on TV).
Nor will anyone admit any mistakes, because they won’t perceive that they should have seen the positives earlier. Instead, they will frame it as Tesla “turning things around.”
Everyone loves a good turnaround story.
Everyone loves a good turnaround story.
The media loves to rip something apart and then create a "redemption" story if their target survives their savagery.
I wonder how close we are to Tesla's "redemption" in the media.
I wonder how close we are to Tesla's "redemption" in the media.
Hiring seems to go up again which I guess is a good sign - they wouldn´t do it if they weren´t sure about financials.
Tesla hiring activity has now jumped almost 24% since July 1
Tesla hiring activity has now jumped almost 24% since July 1
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Let’s hope not or humanity is in big trouble; as in we’re too stupid to live.
Well my Google-fu also failed to find any reported numbers from Toyota or anyone else on Camry average US sales price but I seriously doubt the average Camry is $4K more than the average in its class.
I agree it would be nice if solid numbers could be found to confirm but in any case any remaining room for doubt should be gone by the end of next month.
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My AI could have told you that a long time ago.
I’m reading CC transcript and I get the impression, that Tesla is learning from GA4, that using little less automation, than what they previously tought, is more efficient.
So maybe there’s some sweet spot for automation. Maybe more than what traditional car makers have done but less than what was done on GA3.
So maybe there’s some sweet spot for automation. Maybe more than what traditional car makers have done but less than what was done on GA3.
That was my take as well. However, I think their desire is to not stop at just a spot in between full automation and OEM ICE
manufacturers. I believe the goal is to go fully automated. It was 'a bridge too far' they learned during 'production hell' and they had to scramble to meet the 5k/wk end of Q2 goal. But they are still aiming for 100% automation in the future.
I don’t know, whether anyone is interested, but i’ve increased my Tesla portfolio slightly. I’m sure no one remembers, but when I joined this forum about four years ago, I thought that Tesla is clearly overvalued and bought some sell options. Well they all eventually expired worthless. After that I thought “If you can’t win them, join them” and now I have some shares. It is still only about 4% of my portfolio, but absolutely the most fun and interesting part
I’m sometimes somewhat “suspicious bull”, but i’m long in any case.
I’m sometimes somewhat “suspicious bull”, but i’m long in any case.
Welcome to the team.I don’t know, whether anyone is interested, but i’ve increased my Tesla portfolio slightly. I’m sure no one remembers, but when I joined this forum about four years ago, I thought that Tesla is clearly overvalued and bought some sell options. Well they all eventually expired worthless. After that I thought “If you can’t win them, join them” and now I have some shares. It is still only about 4% of my portfolio, but absolutely the most fun and interesting part
I’m sometimes somewhat “suspicious bull”, but i’m long in any case.
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I don’t know, whether anyone is interested, but i’ve increased my Tesla portfolio slightly. I’m sure no one remembers, but when I joined this forum about four years ago, I thought that Tesla is clearly overvalued and bought some sell options. Well they all eventually expired worthless. After that I thought “If you can’t win them, join them” and now I have some shares. It is still only about 4% of my portfolio, but absolutely the most fun and interesting part
I’m sometimes somewhat “suspicious bull”, but i’m long in any case.
Some people learn more slowly but as long as you demonstrate the ability to learn at all, you’re golden. I look forward to a more cup is half full approach from you when discussing Tesla than your previous cup completely empty view.
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This is kinda of neat as well, though they need to update all the models that are delayed:
What EV to buy electric car list of all BEVs past present & future
One thing I notice looking at Baic and BYD, the cars are clearly not comparable to the longer range US EVs like the upcoming Leaf, the Bolt and the Model 3. So its important to put that into perspective. The prices are also not in the luxury tier either. They are not the worst cars made but they have a long ways to go.
Global sales with Links:
GLOBAL EV SALES DATA | WORLD EV SALES HISTORY
That sweet spot is most likely moving towards more and more automation as robots develop and Tesla learns. But now Tesla has learned, that with current robotics and their own experience, they went too far with GA3.
Hang on a second. As to your first statement above, I agree completely if you remove the "Too."
But to say that the press merely reflects what the man on the street thinks about Tesla seems backwards. The man on the street's perception comes primarily from what is printed about Tesla. I work with a bunch of people who don't really know anything about Tesla, but their perception is that Tesla is running out of money, that a whistle blower recently was fired, that they can't make model 3's, etc.
If they didn't get that negative perception from the press then where did they get it?
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i hope it’s software dev, product managers, and service
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