FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

saneryee-studio.medium.com

Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

yuhuang-63908.medium.com

 

[aronth5]

Installing 2023.44.30.5.1 right now

2018 M3

TeslaFi doesn't include the reference to FSD in build 2023.44.30.5.1 but the release notes include FSD. Doubtful that Tesla has actually finished the merge of both branches but who knows. If Tesla has that is good news going forward.

 

[Wnuk]

Oh well

 

[kabin]

It's clear they have perception, so this is down to planning, which can be trained.

Planning is only so good when it's garbage in. Dollars to donuts this issue didn't appear with any particular release. Instead it's a systemic issue the team has been chasing from inception. As the system became more 'refined' (term used loosely), the issue became more and more apparent.

 

[JohnB007]

How the heck do you turn on that "edge bleeding" feature when turn signal is on? Or is that disabled on FSD enabled machines?

 

[kabin]

The junk has been recalled, officially.

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Tesla has redefined OTA software.

 

[kabin]

Light rain in this morning's drive and 2023.44.30.2 wipers worked great.

 

[Twiglett]

Well this is a first for me. My car got 2023.44.30.2 on the 20th and everything seemed good.
Then yesterday the AC freaked out and showed outside temps at 154F (it’s 64F) and inside temps as 98F (it’s 69) so I’m trying to stay warm while the cars is blasting trying to cool it down.
Opened a service call and there is a service alert saying the AC needs maintenance- but there’s no notification in the car.
Date on the service alert is the date/time the new software finished installing. Coincidence? I think not, this was an ECU update as well.
Of course Tesla has no service free until mid January

 

[dflowerz]

How the heck do you turn on that "edge bleeding" feature when turn signal is on? Or is that disabled on FSD enabled machines?

I have 2023.44.30.2 in my 2022 Model Y Performance and the red edge bleeding is working. I did not turn on anything. Car is in the USA.

 

[mgs333]

I wonder if this new recall for 2021-2023 s and x have anything to do with Tesla pulling the previous recall. I don't think it does as they would just pull it from a and x instead of pulling from the whole fleet?

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recall-over-120000-vehicles-us-nhtsa-2023-12-22/

 

[FSDtester#1]

Well this is a first for me. My car got 2023.44.30.2 on the 20th and everything seemed good.
Then yesterday the AC freaked out and showed outside temps at 154F (it’s 64F) and inside temps as 98F (it’s 69) so I’m trying to stay warm while the cars is blasting trying to cool it down.
Opened a service call and there is a service alert saying the AC needs maintenance- but there’s no notification in the car.
Date on the service alert is the date/time the new software finished installing. Coincidence? I think not, this was an ECU update as well.
Of course Tesla has no service free until mid January

With just a few days until Christmas , they couldn't of F'ed up these releases any more.
Merry Christmas from Tesla to everyone, and don't forget to bend over. How the hell am I going to do a USB 50 light show marathon without this update...
Maybe my wife is a witch or sorceress and is screwing us all with her powers???

I even had to take the trash out this week... why would she be doing this to us all???

Taking out the trash = spouse duties after dark.

 

[MP3Mike]

I wonder if this new recall for 2021-2023 s and x have anything to do with Tesla pulling the previous recall. I don't think it does as they would just pull it from a and x instead of pulling from the whole fleet?

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-recall-over-120000-vehicles-us-nhtsa-2023-12-22/

No, it doesn't, as the fix is in the same 2023.44.30.x update that resolves the AP recall:

 

[MP3Mike]

I just received the 2023.44.30.5.1 fix to the recall fix. (I had 2023.44.30.2) But it looks like there is a 2023.44.30.6 version now as well, maybe that is the fix to 2023.44.30.4 that is for different hardware configurations?)

 

[hybridbear]

I just received the 2023.44.30.5.1 fix to the recall fix. (I had 2023.44.30.2) But it looks like there is a 2023.44.30.6 version now as well, maybe that is the fix to 2023.44.30.4 that is for different hardware configurations?)

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Yes, now 2023.44.30.6 is waiting for wifi to download to replace 44.30.4 that got pulled from our car before it was downloaded/installed. We have an S that has been upgraded to HW3/MCU2.

 

[fasteddie7]

What on earth is going on with this update!? Waiting for 2 of our 3 to get one of them, at this point I don’t know what im going to even get, if anything.

 

[Mardak]

it looks like there is a 2023.44.30.6 version now as well, maybe that is the fix to 2023.44.30.4 that is for different hardware configurations?)

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TeslaFi shows 2023.44.30.6 nearly 90% of 450 pending are Model S/X. Of all the 2023.44.30.x so far, the largest groups underrepresented in US rollout had been HW4 and HW2.5, so maybe this will bring holiday update to those vehicles while .5.1 fixes some issue for the vehicles affected by the earlier rollouts.

Interestingly, Teslascope shows the largest previous version getting .6 is FSD Beta 11.4.7.3:

2023.27.7     29
2023.44.30.2  16
2023.27.12    14
2023.44.30.4  13
2023.44.1      5
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Both .5.1 and .6 are newly adding people who haven't received the holiday update, so the rollout continues!

 

[KLam]

Read there's a OTA recall of S and X for door lock function. So maybe more wait.

 

[MP3Mike]

Read there's a OTA recall of S and X for door lock function. So maybe more wait.

Nope, covered 5 posts above your post.

 

[jebinc]

With just a few days until Christmas , they couldn't of F'ed up these releases any more.
Merry Christmas from Tesla to everyone, and don't forget to bend over. How the hell am I going to do a USB 50 light show marathon without this update...
Maybe my wife is a witch or sorceress and is screwing us all with her powers???

I even had to take the trash out this week... why would she be doing this to us all???

Taking out the trash = spouse duties after dark.

.6 coming soon….

 

[kabin]

I was on 2023.44.30.2 and just downloaded 2023.44.30.5.1 and will likely need to download the next one. I'm started to miss traditional recalls.

 

[legendsk]

Does it come as a surprise that the software update process operates about like the software driving process?