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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Just installed 12.3.6 Came pretty fast after 12.3.5 which I never had a chance to try. I like the new parking visualization but still can't replace a front camera.
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Another plus for me with 12.3 is that a lot of arterials around my area have 55mph speed limits according to Tesla's nav data but that is too fast. The streets around here are fairly new and have no posted speed limits so the nav data gets it from a database I guess. Sometimes Apple maps, Google...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Some positive news from me. I briefly tried 12.3 for about 0.5 miles, but in an area that 11.x had issues with. First, where the car used to go 55 in what should be a 35mph zone it now goes 35mph. Also the stop sigh turning into my neighborhood always caused 11.x problems but 12.3 did it very...
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Downloading 12.3 now too! First version I am excited about in a long time. Look forward to trying it out!
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Ugh. Still stuck on 11.4.9 for a month or two or more. I always test at the stop sign turning into my neighborhood and if it has issues with that then I don't use it. Hopeful 12.x will do better. Looking forward to getting it!
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    Thank you for explaining👍
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    It seems like for V12 to work it has to get decisions from the Tesla mothership. Seems like the system in not fully contained in the car. Is that right? If so then it seems like there has to be some significant bandwidth to transmit and receive data. Probably I just do not understand neural...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Yes it is based on simple limited stuff because if it can't do that stuff then I am not interested. That is just me. I have a lot of respect for all those beta testers who are hopefully helping debug the system and go through all the scary frustrating moments. If FSD was offered for free in...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I tried 11.4.9 one time and it continues to be worse than versions from a year ago. It used to be able to do the stop sign and left turn into my neighborhood but for the last year or so it hesitates too long then gets confused doing the turn. I was going to test 11.4.9 but before I even got to...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I have 2023.44.30.2 in my 2022 Model Y Performance and the red edge bleeding is working. I did not turn on anything. Car is in the USA.
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Tried 11.4.8.1 last night on my usual 1 mile route. Two disengagements and it got very confused at the stop that usually confuses it. The car disengaged itself, not me on the two disengagements. OK that test done. Failed.
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    My experience too and I paid big bucks for it. A new update will come out and I give it a try and it still has major issues so I stop using it until the next update. Autopilot is better and I will use that fairly often. In retrospect I would not have bought FSD. Now hoping one of these days...
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    FSD Owners - Do any of you prefer leaving it off?

    I leave FSD off almost all the time. I use Autopilot more as it is OK on the highway most of the time. I try FSD when a new update comes out and always have to do one or two interventions in my neighborhood in less than a mile. I have given up on version 11 as I feel like it will never come...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Have not noticed. Will check next time. Thanks!
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Downloaded 11.4.7.3 last night. Biggest interest for me is if the speed limit errors get fixed around my neighborhood on two different streets. Both should be 35mph but FDS/Maps was 55mph which is scary. After 11.4.7.2 one of them switched to 25mph-now to slow but better than too fast. The...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Finally decided to give 11.4.7.2 a try over the last few days. Autopilot did OK until I got into some road construction. To the left was a temporary concrete wall close to the left lane limit mark. Did OK until the concrete wall got too close to the lane marker then the car started to slow too...
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    Understanding traffic data on navigation map

    Those double thin red lines showed up on my Tesla map for the first time yesterday. They were unrelated to any traffic. One set was at the stop sign the always gives FSD problems. Wonder if they are related to FSD having issues in those areas? I have had the car for almost a year and only...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I haven't even tried 11.4.7.2 Have had it for over a week but just not that motivated, as for sure it will be similar and still have the same issues it already had. Maybe when 12.0 arrives I will try it out.
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    When did you last touch your brake pedal?

    I use the brake pedal every day. Not every time, but every day. I don't brake that hard but regen is often not quite enough.
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Although 11.4.7 did better on my left turn at a 4 way stop test, overall it is a fail. Twice I have used it to drive a route that is less than a mile and both times it has disengaged doing a generic left turn that it has always done before. As always there are also two spots where without fail...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Yes for sure. It was working great many versions ago then was broken for the last year or so......
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Tried 11.4.7 at my 4 way stop and today it did acceptably well. The creep was much less and it made the turn with no hesitation. A big improvement over the more recent versions. I was happy about that small improvement.
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    My Model Y updated to 11.4.7 today. When I get back in town I will try my stop sign test. I have kind of irrationally written off the whole 11 series and have more hope for version 12, but that might just be falling for Elon's hype machine:)
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    FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

    I am getting more excited about version 12 as it seems to me that it's the way to go. Can't wait to try it out. I currently have version 11.4.6 and have no hope for that version. Seems like version 12 might do better at contextual situations using the AI model. There are a couple of urban...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Finally tried 11.4.6. It did pretty good on the highway and getting off to go to my house. It still has the same problems at the 4 way stop to turn in to my neighborhood. It stops then creeps forward for way too long (for no reason) then decides to turn left but mid turn gets confused and...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I have had 11.4.6 for a week or two and to be honest, I am not even interested in testing it. I have been through a number of these updates and none have been even close to useful for me. I still hope that FSD will get better but also done with FSD scaring me so often. Musk keeps saying that...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I tried 11.4.4 once or twice and never tried it again because it was so bad. No, let me rephrase that: Because is was so dangerous.
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    Did our Model Y save us from a serious broadside accident?

    Went to cross a highway yesterday evening on a green light. Part way through the car started freaking out with warning sounds. I glanced right and slammed on the brakes as a car blew through the red light at highway speeds with zero attempt to slow down. Thinking back I wonder if our car slammed...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Tested 11.4.4 at my 4 way stop and it was very bad. The car stopped, crept out half a car length for no reason, started the left turn, and stopped halfway through the turn for unknown reasons. It then started the turn again but I intervened because another car was waiting and it was clear that...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Just finished downloading 11.4.4. Only had 11.4.3 for a week or two. OK 11.4.4, try not to scare the crap out of me!
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Score another point for 11.4.3 scaring the crap out of me. Headed south on Latrobe road in El Dorado Hills, CA (two lanes in each direction) in the right hand lane. Coming up on a bicyclist on the right right shoulder but he is far right. Plenty of space so zero need for the car to do anything...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Tried 11.4.3 at my 4 way stop and it did a little better. With 11.4.2 it started doing this creeping ahead at the stop which took way too long, and no creeping was needed since it was a 4 way stop with good visibility in all directions. With 11.4.3 it still did the unnecessary creeping but for...
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    FSD beta 11.4.3?

    Also downloading 11.4.3 As always, will test it at the 4 way stop outside my neighborhood. 11.4.2 starting this new creeping behavior at the stop, but eventually did the left turn OK. Earlier versions would not creep, but would get totally confused doing the left turn. Always hoping for no...
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    Is FSD worth it $10k? ( Any insight from Beta users)

    I paid 15K for FSD with my 2022 MYP. Love the car overall, but is FSD worth it? Not in it's current configuration. Every time there is a new update I will try it to see if there is any improvement, and sometimes in my area it works better and sometimes worse. I bought it in the (naive) hope that...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Gave 11.4.2 another chance at the 4 way stop left turn into my housing development. Last time crept forward then started to awkwardly do the turn. This time is crept forward again but did the turn OK. Better, but still not usable when traffic is around because it takes too long to creep forward...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Two things. First, the sight lines are always clear at the 4 way stop. Zero need to creep out, and it takes so long that it is not practical. It never used to do this so a new behavior. I am not throwing FSD out. I am just so frustrated that I really don't use it in traffic. I still use...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Everyone has their problem spot with FSD and mine is the simple 4 way stop then left turn into our housing development. Previous FSD versions would stop at the stop sign then proceed normally then get very confused about the left turn, then start to go straight then stop then make a sharper...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    Tried FSD 11.3.6 yesterday for a short time. It seems everyone has a problem spot where FSD does not work well. Mine is the 4 way stop with a left turn into my neighborhood. Normally FSD gets confused and takes forever to decide what to do but eventually does the turn. With 11.3.6 it was less...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I have 2022.45.12, FSD 11.3.3. I used the autopilot feature a lot yesterday and was pretty happy with it. It did it's own lane changes well and was great in stop and go traffic. I had to take over once when a large orange traffic barrel thing was partially out in my lane. FSD was kind of...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    My Model Y updated this morning. Have not tested it yet and not in much of a hurry because of what I have read here. Still very much beta. FSD aside, hoping for some Apple music improvements because so far it has been a little flaky about working consistently. Also hoping for some sort of 360...
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    FSD Beta v11.x

    I wonder if how often you use FSD influences how soon you get an update. If so I am toast:) I usually try the new update, find out it still is not great, and stop using it until the next update. I am a horrible beta tester, but I might be more motivated if we were given the software for free...
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    What are people that bought Full FSD doing?

    I paid the 15K for FSD back in September 2022 and really do not use it much. When an update comes out I will use it a small amount to check for improvements and usually stop using it because it is just way easier and smoother for me to drive. I think the hard part for FSD is context. For...
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    Toyota Mechanic Reviews the Model Y

    I really like that guy's videos and besides my Model Y I have a 2021 4Runner which is why I found his videos in the first place. For the most part I like his take on the Model Y, but my 2022 Model Y does not have the build quality issues he talks about. No rattles after almost 6 months and the...
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    FSD Beta 10.69

    I had posted earlier that with 25.2 my Model Y randomly changed into a right turn lane when it needed to go straight through an intersection. Tried it again last night under the same conditions and this time it did fine. It managed to get me home with no interventions. Its behavior was very...
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    Model Y Performance Surprise for Wife

    Sounds like fun! We bought a MYP last September and we both just love it. Great for zipping around town and endless power. Ride not too harsh either.
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    Fsd update

    I posted in another thread that my Model Y randomly tried to change to a right hand turn only lane when it should have stayed in the left lane and gone straight across an intersection. I had to take over. Never had that with prior versions of FSD. Will not be testing this version anymore until...
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    FSD Beta 10.69

    Not a good start to 25.2. Engaged it last night and it turned left normally from a four way stop into the proper lane with a traffic light ahead to cross straight across an arterial. Then out of the blue the car started to veer into the right turn only lane. I had to take over to keep it from...
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    EV6 to a Model Y

    Thanks for the Kia/Tesla comparison. Always interesting! I went with a Model Y Performance and am loving the car after a few months. Always keeping my eyes open to see what other companies are doing.
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    FSD Overfit to Southern California

    I will explain better. The freeway onramp I was talking about was a cloverleaf type entrance and on the 180 degree curve the car slowed down way too much so I had to just speed up. No merging issue there, just the car slowing too much. The other one with the trucks was the two trucks merging...
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    Upset that Tesla screwed customers who took delivery in the last few months

    Yep I probably overpaid for my MYP. Love the car though and it is a perfect fit for what we needed. Life goes on. Sure would be bad if Tesla got driven out of business by the competition and we had cars with no support anymore. Better to keep the cars selling and keep the company healthy.