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It has started. Guess these will be quite popular. Montreal's A2Z EV develops first NACS adapter
The adapter, which has already been tested and is ready for use, combines AC/DC functionality in a single device, simplifying the charging process for EV owners.
So you can use it when you're not supercharging. This would also replace any adapter currently being used to connect a J1772 car to a Tesla UMC or HPWC. Nice.If the adapter is for supercharging why would it need AC pins?
From the little that I read on the site, it indicated that it was for Supercharging. And with that said, that would suggest that the relays needed to switch from DC to AC charging aren't in the adapter. Which, since those relays are pretty big, makes sense.So you can use it when you're not supercharging. This would also replace any adapter currently being used to connect a J1772 car to a Tesla UMC or HPWC. Nice.
Or maybe they are populated to make the plug fit and hold as required.From the render/photo the AC power pins on the J1772 portion are populated with metal contacts. That would imply this is intended to work for AC as well. For someone that knows more than me, are we over thinking this? Are all On Board Chargers already DC tolerant (like in a Tesla) in every production EV due to safety regs and applying 400 VDC to the OBC is already safe?
I wonder if adapters/cable extensions will have any issues with heat. The V3 superchargers are liquid cooled to handle the additional amperage. Perhaps the CCS adapters will be limited to around 120 kW.As a Rivian owner I would need an adapter with a 4’ or 6’ cord so that I don’t block 2 SuperCharger stalls.
Or stop at a V4 site that has longer cables.I wonder if adapters/cable extensions will have any issues with heat. The V3 superchargers are liquid cooled to handle the additional amperage. Perhaps the CCS adapters will be limited to around 120 kW.
Yep, that’s a real concern but I could live with SuperChargers limited to 120 kW. The fact SuperChargers are everywhere is good enough for me.I wonder if adapters/cable extensions will have any issues with heat. The V3 superchargers are liquid cooled to handle the additional amperage. Perhaps the CCS adapters will be limited to around 120 kW.
It looks big enough for relays to disconnect the AC pins. That being said, I would expect both the AC system in the car to have relays and cable rated for 1000V., so it might not even matter if DC voltage was present on the AC pins.Oh Really. How does this work??? Does it energize the AC pins and the DC pins at the same time. The adapter does not look big enough to contain a switching device inside.
This adapter looks like an accident waiting to happen to me.
Native billing integration will take some work but at magic dock sites charging is all handled through the app, so in theory Tesla could silently flip the switch whenever they wanted.This adapter doesn’t mean anything unless Tesla fully opens up the network to all EVs. Otherwise other EVs have no way to activate the charging session.
The manufacturers that have agreed to switch to NACS have all said they would be providing an adapter made by Tesla for current CCS car owners but they still need to implement the software side on the cars to be able to charge.
I guess maybe this can be a replacement if owners break the original Tesla/OEM supplied adapter in the future?
It would be something a small service station in a remote area could install a few of. An extra extra 47km/h of range (or more for 48A chargers) is pretty significant on a low power DCFC, plus even if the DC part of the charger fails, you do have the AC backup built right in.If you are already DC fast charging, even at 20 kW, what is the point of a simultaneous AC connection?
I might be misreading, are you saying simultaneous AC and DC charge on a NACS plug? If the idea is to charge faster the site should have bigger transformers/rectifiers to output more DC.It would be something a small service station in a remote area could install a few of. An extra extra 47km/h of range (or more for 48A chargers) is pretty significant on a low power DCFC, plus even if the DC part of the charger fails, you do have the AC backup built right in.