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You should be fine going from Oakville to Waterloo in an 85, even in Winter. I made it home with 40km of rated range left and starting from Oakville would save you at least 80km on the round trip compared to Scarborough.I feel your pain! I did an Oakville to Waterloo run last weekend and in the next 5 years, I anticipate that I will drive that route a little more often. I did a L2 charge in Waterloo but I would have loved if I can figure out a CHAdeMO connection out there.
You should be fine going from Oakville to Waterloo in an 85, even in Winter. I made it home with 40km of rated range left and starting from Oakville would save you at least 80km on the round trip compared to Scarborough.
If he is a non Tesla person, he probably does NOT know what a Supercharger is and therefore my thinking remains unchanged.That would work out to about half of the forecast 12-13 on the "2017," map. Based on past history, it appears to be a likely ratio.
Of course, it isn't in sync with statements to investors like "the number of Superchargers in N.A. will double in 2017."
Someone who works for a charging network/Charging station manufacturer should know infrastructure, so I give him the benefit of the doubt.
Well, here we are the beginning of April and no sign whatsoever of any new SC construction here in Canada. I see no evidence of anything happening this year, especially in the Ottawa area. I hope I am dead wrong!
Yes, but this is an Eastern Canada Superchargers thread...so there's that.what about the possibility that there may be a supercharger built at the new service centre in Calgary which is under construction. Seems you might have forgotten that there is a western Canada again?
That page now gives a File not found error. Too good to be true.
It is absolutely true. The federal funding was awarded late last year and can't now be spent on anything very different from what was proposed. There's probably some simple hang-up with lawyers at some layer, like a contract problem with one of the sites. Utilities are very conservative and would not have the content in writing without being 99% of the way through negotiations.
Yesterday, I was charging at one of the 5 new L3 ChargePoint chargers at the Toronto Airport via my CHAdeMO adapter. While I was there, a Nissan Leaf badged up with the GTAA (Greater Toronto Airport Authority) logos pulled up and a couple of engineers got out to talk to me. They were very happy to see me using the station, and even gave me a tip on how to reset the station if it faults out while you are using it. (One station did fault while I was using it, and the engineer texted me later to say there was a "coolant leak" that they were going to fix shortly).
They said they had, or were going to, approach Tesla about putting in a Supercharger stall or two to complement the existing L3s there. Barring that, they are considering some sort of loaner CHAdeMO adapter system utilizing a locker that you open with a credit card deposit which is refunded when the adapter is returned. The problem is the credit card fee would have to be more than the adapter costs or else people might just make off with it if they are forfeiting less than the cost of the adapter.
They thought the CHAdeMO adapter was somehow electronically locked to the vehicle, but they were very happy to hear that is not the case.
Kudos to the GTAA for being really enthusiastic about this. They even have numerous street signs up pointing drivers to these stations.
Yesterday, I was charging at one of the 5 new L3 ChargePoint chargers at the Toronto Airport via my CHAdeMO adapter. While I was there, a Nissan Leaf badged up with the GTAA (Greater Toronto Airport Authority) logos pulled up and a couple of engineers got out to talk to me. They were very happy to see me using the station, and even gave me a tip on how to reset the station if it faults out while you are using it. (One station did fault while I was using it, and the engineer texted me later to say there was a "coolant leak" that they were going to fix shortly).
They said they had, or were going to, approach Tesla about putting in a Supercharger stall or two to complement the existing L3s there. Barring that, they are considering some sort of loaner CHAdeMO adapter system utilizing a locker that you open with a credit card deposit which is refunded when the adapter is returned. The problem is the credit card fee would have to be more than the adapter costs or else people might just make off with it if they are forfeiting less than the cost of the adapter.
They thought the CHAdeMO adapter was somehow electronically locked to the vehicle, but they were very happy to hear that is not the case.
Kudos to the GTAA for being really enthusiastic about this. They even have numerous street signs up pointing drivers to these stations.
For the same money, couldnt they put like 50 L2 stations in? Wouldn't that make more sense? The only use case I can think of for L3 is a drop off/pick up of another party, which in that case it is super handy...
Are they free to use? ...?
Yes, but this is an Eastern Canada Superchargers thread...so there's that.
For the same money, couldnt they put like 50 L2 stations in? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Actually, I don't think so. The high power L3 stations are extremely useful for someone stopped and waiting for their passengers to arrive (this is the cell phone lot, after all) where they can get a decent amount of range in a short time. Being right next to the long-term parking garage, it is also convenient for someone who has parked for a week or more and needs a quick top off before going home.
Rather than 50 L2 stations, I think 500 L1 plugs in the parking garage would make more sense. Why hog a L2 for 2 weeks when the car would be finished charging in a matter of hours? Let the car trickle away on L1 while you're away on your trip. I've always said the power level of the station should be inversely proportional to the expected duration of stay.
For the airports with extremely cold winters, they often have block heater plugs EVERYWHERE. They serve up as L1 outlets for EV's naturally.Yes you are correct.... L1 at long term would make the most sense.
I understand that you are frustrated and I am sorry that you had a rough time on your trip, but find travelling to Ottawa from Toronto is now comparatively stress free (relative to four years ago, when there were no Superchargers or L3 chargers, and very few L2 chargers). Downtown Ottawa now offers a number of charging options, making it relatively easy to plan some activities within walking distance of multiple alternative chargers. For our first trips along Hwy 7, there was not even a single L2 charger for the entire distance from North Toronto to Ottawa. There are now many L2 and at least a half dozen L3 chargers along that route.So here I am charging with the Tesla charger at the Brookstreet hotel in Ottawa.
I desperately needed a charge after my stay in Carp.
I pulled in and of course both tesla spots were taken. Had to use the awful and slow, 30A public charger next to them.
Finally am able to move over to the Tesla charger.
Need at least 180 km range to get to Kingston SC on Hwy 10.
Still need another hour charging.
I was at the Canadian aviation museum yesterday and that too, had a Tesla charging so I plugged into the Sun Country one and of course it was broken. I called Sun Country and they said they delivered a replacement two months ago! Really?
Whose to blame here?
So we managed to crawl to the Westin tesla charger, which was also slow, and charge 30 min or so just so we can get back to Carp and plug in overnight at 120V @ 6 km an hour!
Hence the reason for charging again at Brookstreet!
I also have a slow leak in one of the tires!
To say that I am livid with Tesla is an understatement!
What a total waste of time coming here because of this hassle!
My friend in Ottawa said she would never buy an EV because of the waiting and lack of infrastructure. Can you blame her?
Obviously this is unusual and I tried to tell her but she would have no part of it and is determined that electric car usage is still not ready yet.
Misinformed minds is not what Tesla needs right now!
Tesla, for the love of humanity, get your act together and put a &&&)$&@7&! Supercharger NOW in the Ottawa region!
This is $&@&)((@ ludicrous!
Even if you have to rip out the useless Superchargers in Parry Sound and Huntsville to do it, get it done!
Totally unacceptable!
Did I say I was livid!
Oh yes I did.
I am livid with Tesla right now as Ottawa should have had a SC years ago! Permits, if that's the issue, should have been resolved four years ago!
Someone at Tesla is not doing his or her job!
I'm still livid!
I agree that Cornwall is a terrible location (both too far from the highway and not convenient with regards to amenities). We actually walked up to the StarBucks a few blocks up last March after a big snow storm, so the sidewalks had large banks of snow.Cornwall - this isn't a great location if you're travelling across the 401 as the superchargers are a good 5-7 minutes off (then 5-7 back on again) the highway. They're in a hotel parking lot and across the street from a Tim Hortons and a few shops, and a McDonalds too IIRC. The street is a busy one so maybe not one you want to drag multiple toddlers across if you're alone. If you're staying at the hotel the chargers are great. Otherwise skip it and plan to power on through to Kingston. I was the only car charging the entire 45 minutes I was there.
If you walk across the street (at traffic lights), there is a Panera Bread on the corner (and more shops). We usually stop here for a long while (almost an hour) while we have dinner.Kingston - these are well located in a discount mall parking lot next to a hotel just a minute off the highway. Not great if you're hungry but you can easily kill 30-60 minutes at the various stores. Free charging cost us $200 to charge here (when my wife and I bought a bunch of stuff at Puma and Adidas). One other tesla showed up whole I was there. Black 85D.