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Except I bet a lot of people will either sit out until they revise the option packages or not pay the $5,000 to get the lift gate when they can buy a Tesla STOOL for a lot less
That's what we are doing and based on other forum posts I know we are not alone so having an option package that many consider to be exorbitantly priced is not good for Tesla as few will choose it and the few who choose it will do so with some resentment.
It's a great way if people value the lift gate that much. I doubt the other items will hold as much valuable for people, they don't for me. And I don't think the lift gate alone would either. I'm sure they put a lot of thought into it. Coke put a lot of thought into "New Coke" too...
scott jones
Member
I for one will NOT buy until the liftgate is a separate option. I thought I was the only one who could NOT believe it was part of the package.
Well, it's never been a stand-alone option. Before it was always part of the Tech Package option. It is unlikely that Tesla is going to offer the automatic lift gate, or other features, as line item options any time soon. Over the past two years Tesla has continuously simplified and reduced the Model S options list.
Uncle Paul
Well-Known Member
Power lift gates are a pretty recent option on many cars. They are usually offered in some kind of a luxury or convenience application, since most people want the much simpler manual hand raise.
Manufacturers typically make their cars to appeal to the 85th percentile buyer. Trying to make everybody happy is often a recipe for failure.
I understand that everybody wants to spec each car to their perfect option list, but is much easier and more efficient to offer options in packages. Believe every other manufacturer does the same thing.
Manufacturers typically make their cars to appeal to the 85th percentile buyer. Trying to make everybody happy is often a recipe for failure.
I understand that everybody wants to spec each car to their perfect option list, but is much easier and more efficient to offer options in packages. Believe every other manufacturer does the same thing.
They should reconstitute the Tech Package with Autopilot and put the power lift gate and the miscellaneous LEDs as a part of that package. Removing the lift gate from the Tech Package and putting it in a Package that few find of value is the reason for this whole lift gate fiasco.
The lift gate and the LED interior lights, LED door handle lights, and the LED fog lights should be put in the Tech Package with Autopilot and they can increase the cost of that package by $1,500 and just about everyone will be happy.
The lift gate and the LED interior lights, LED door handle lights, and the LED fog lights should be put in the Tech Package with Autopilot and they can increase the cost of that package by $1,500 and just about everyone will be happy.
Great recommendation.
I sent an email to Jerome Guile and another person in Tesla management with a link to this post and asking them to consider adding the power liftgate as a separate option. Here's the reply I got from Jerome yesterday:
"Thanks for your note and sharing your concern with us. I have shared your feedback with our sales, engineering, and program management teams. We continuously try to simplify the ordering process by proposing choices which are appreciated by our customers. It is definitely not our intention to make any decision more difficult. Your opinion is appreciated and my colleagues will review it. Many thanks for your continued support."
I suggest for those who feel strongly about this issue to email Tesla and let your voices be known. I think it's in the best interest of Tesla if they can make the change quickly.
JakeP
S P4996 ==> P02547
TimF, this is a very simple and very elegant solution, I hope Tesla considers this option.
My alternate suggestion for Tesla would be the following, just because personally I like the lighting effects but don't care for the Alcantara, and don't like to see them bundled:
1) Make the Power Liftgate standard, as it is presumably required for Rear Facing Seats anyway.
2) Premium Interior Trim Package
-Extended Leather Trim
-Alcantara Headliner
3) Premium Lighting Package
-Ambient Lighting
-LED cornering lamps and fog lamps
-Lighted door handles
And why not just make #3 standard anyway, how much can a bunch of LEDs and wiring really add in cost, that you wouldn't make back via the benefits of standardization?
But I want the headliner but don't care about the extended leather trim. Not going to ever make everyone happy.
siucity
Button Pusher
My guess is that there are people who bought the Tech Package option to get the power liftgate, so they feel everyone should pay into some package to get that feature.
I think you'll be waiting a long while. In the 6 months since I ordered mine, it's gone completely the other way. Tesla is clearly streamlining their manufacturing process as they ramp up volume. And in doing so, they're going away from a la carte and more to defined "packages". It allows for more kitting of parts, fewer on-line problems and ultimately lower cost. I suspect that it's only a matter of time before we see the vehicles in defined trim levels with more styling cues, in the same way that we see with other manufacturers.
That said, there's a lot of noise specifically about the lift gate, so that one may be moved.
justaddsun
Member
Doubt it. That would require retooling or changing the manufacturing process, at least with the aluminum, not to mention reallocation of design resources. All of that should be going to the X, and Model 3.
I think the impact of changing the headlight cluster ("next gen" LED headlights) and offering different wheel options (20" please) would go a long way cosmetically and really does appeal to a lot of buyers.
On the topic of the liftgate, now that we're making our wishes, it would have been nice for TM to make it a motion sensing liftgate (when the foot is just under the bumper). Seems like it would be easy to place the sensor in the black plastic under the bumper. That way it would have made the $5k price of the PP more palatable or they could have made it its own desirable option. Otherwise, I agree they should have made the basic liftgate standard.
