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JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Not a fan of the LEAF, it's a weirdmobile, without the benefit of amazing aerodynamics that might justify it's looks.
The small grill openings are certainly non-ICEy, especially considering many current ICE designs. The fake nose cone was just to keep the car more familiar looking. They got rid of that for the X, and I'll assume they'll do the same for the 3. They need highly efficient aerodynamics to get an affordable EV with sufficient range.
I don't want a wierdmobile either, but I'd like and expect something distinctive, while being classy, and I expect it to reflect the design opportunities provide by an EV.
I've always like the Optima as well, and thought that more a streamlined EV version of it would make a nice Model 3.
bigbear
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JRP3
Hyperactive Member
bigbear
Member
It has one of the lowest drag coefficients of all cars out today. Didn't the designer of mazda cars become the guy who made the model s?
EVNow
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bigbear
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gavine
Petrol Head turned EV Enthusiast
The Chrysler 200 looks just like the Ford Fusion and the latest Toyota Avalon. All nice cars, but quite familiar with each other.
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MassModel3
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Every time I see a Kia Optima I think it would make a great Model 3. Same with the Hyundai Elantra, though it's a bit on the small side. But I really like the design.
stopcrazypp
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I feel fairly confident in saying that if Tesla designed it like an american muscle car it would have close to zero mass market appeal globally. Of course these cars have fans everywhere, but they are not mass market design.
I hope they go in the direction of the Mazda 6 with their own unique twist and a design that plays to the strength of an EV. The same goes for the CUV version as well.
I hope they go in the direction of the Mazda 6 with their own unique twist and a design that plays to the strength of an EV. The same goes for the CUV version as well.
taurusking
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I like Mazda 3 design too...something in those lines with Tesla unique touch would be awesome:wink:
It would be amazing if the new Leaf would be on a 'from scratch EV chassis' as radical improvements (like the S) could be achieved. While I like the look those lines will cost Nissan dearly in development and might not appeal to everyone buying the car. I would applaud Nissan though if they went the route of producing a Leaf that looked both beautiful and functional.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I think it's a safe bet the production vehicle would not look as radical as the concept, they rarely do.
One of the main things I want to see from Model 3 is unrivaled aerodynamics. The Model S and X are already exceptionally slippery and I hope that the Model 3 exceeds the 0.23Cd of these cars. 0.20 Cd would be amazing.
Clean aerodynamics is the single easiest way to hit the 200 real-world miles threshold at $35,000. You can have a smaller and cheaper battery if the Wh/mi is lower.
I'm a pilot (and a cyclist) so clean aero is something that I have an intuitive feel for.
Clean aerodynamics is the single easiest way to hit the 200 real-world miles threshold at $35,000. You can have a smaller and cheaper battery if the Wh/mi is lower.
I'm a pilot (and a cyclist) so clean aero is something that I have an intuitive feel for.
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RobStark
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Model X and Model S are .24 Cd.
VW XL1 .19 Cd.
Seems .20 Cd in visually mass market car is near impossible to do.
Model X and Model S are .24 Cd.
VW XL1 .19 Cd.
Seems .20 Cd in visually mass market car is near impossible to do.
I think that looks amazing! That style of doors aren't needed for aerodynamics. I'd be okay with an "aero" package that adds wheel pants and other refinements.
