Hi all,
I've posted this months ago on Reddit and other EV related forums, but now that I am getting more serious about ordering a Model Y, I need to figure out if I can run with this...
I am considering the LR AWD Model Y with the basic 19" Gemini wheels when my lease ends on my current ICE car. That will happen sometime around now (summer) next year, but could be sooner depending on lease buyback/trade-in offers. At the very latest, it will be returned December of 2021. Other options I might add include the trailer hitch for a bike rack, and possibly changing to Black or MSM paint.
I drive around 20 miles for work (round trip), which is a mix of city and highway. I am expecting, pessimistically, around a 300 Wh Mile, and hoping to be surprised closer to a 250 Wh Mile. I have two kids that are involved in town sports, which usually adds less than 5-10 miles to the day's total a few (2 or 3) nights per week.
During the summer, I'll find myself driving to the shore areas around once a week, occasionally commuting from there, which is about 60 miles each way. There are lots of Supercharging options both near work and on the way between that are convenient enough that I won't be annoyed if I had to stop there for a few minutes. I'll also have destination charging (120V15A outlet) available at all points if I'm in a pinch.
My house is nearly 100 years old, and while the electrical panels and wiring have been upgraded over the years, it would require another panel replacement to allow 240V charging - which I've checked with 3 different electricians. The panel install estimate is somewhere in the mid to high teens ($1500 was low, $1800 was highest) but did also include a 14-50 circuit run of about 30 feet plus the outlet. I would probably consider going for the HWC if I went this route, which would then add an additional $500.
I'm looking at either having a 120V20A 5-20 or a 120V30A TT-30 circuit & outlet installed. The cost is expected to be somewhere around $300 to do so. In my garage, I have a 120V15A outlet (5-15) that I'd plan to just use in the interim. I'd probably have to figure out a way to use a halved PVC pipe to protect the wire from the garage door, or I'd have to figure out a way to drill a hole large enough for the cord to extend through with some type of escutcheon plate to stop critters from having easy access.
I work shift work, which has the benefit of it literally being an 8 hour work day. I will have the means to charge at minimum 12 hours between commutes. I park in a 2x2 (4 car) driveway, we do not have a large enough garage for anything bigger than a motorcycle due to home layout.
Also, I don't have "time of use" pricing from my utility. We've got tiers of pricing based on how much you use, divided into supply and delivery components. I pay roughly 17 cents per kWh, and with increased use it does jump to about 18 cents per kWh with rounding.
Thoughts:
*I am assuming 20% efficiency loss for the 120V circuits, though my understanding is that this overhead is fixed and decreases with an increase amperage, and again, I am "pessimistically" assuming a 300 Wh mile.
1. 120V15A Outlet in Garage - 120V*12A = 1440 W * .80 = 1.152 kW = 3.84 miles range per hour
25 * 5 = 125 miles driven weekly; charging 12 hours @ 120V*12A for 7 days would replenish 322 miles of range.
What's the best way to weatherproof the adapter itself? I am expecting a Taymac plastic box for the outlet itself if installed outside, but what solutions can I use for an enclosure for the MC? Ideally I'd like to have some type of plastic or wooden "box" that's waterproof and mounted to the side of the house for the MC to stay in and be sheltered, and large enough I could hang the cord underneath it as well.
I have an electrify america station nearby that has a Chademo, but I'd need to buy the adapter. I also could use Superchargers as needed, as well...
Thanks, all.
I've posted this months ago on Reddit and other EV related forums, but now that I am getting more serious about ordering a Model Y, I need to figure out if I can run with this...
I am considering the LR AWD Model Y with the basic 19" Gemini wheels when my lease ends on my current ICE car. That will happen sometime around now (summer) next year, but could be sooner depending on lease buyback/trade-in offers. At the very latest, it will be returned December of 2021. Other options I might add include the trailer hitch for a bike rack, and possibly changing to Black or MSM paint.
I drive around 20 miles for work (round trip), which is a mix of city and highway. I am expecting, pessimistically, around a 300 Wh Mile, and hoping to be surprised closer to a 250 Wh Mile. I have two kids that are involved in town sports, which usually adds less than 5-10 miles to the day's total a few (2 or 3) nights per week.
During the summer, I'll find myself driving to the shore areas around once a week, occasionally commuting from there, which is about 60 miles each way. There are lots of Supercharging options both near work and on the way between that are convenient enough that I won't be annoyed if I had to stop there for a few minutes. I'll also have destination charging (120V15A outlet) available at all points if I'm in a pinch.
My house is nearly 100 years old, and while the electrical panels and wiring have been upgraded over the years, it would require another panel replacement to allow 240V charging - which I've checked with 3 different electricians. The panel install estimate is somewhere in the mid to high teens ($1500 was low, $1800 was highest) but did also include a 14-50 circuit run of about 30 feet plus the outlet. I would probably consider going for the HWC if I went this route, which would then add an additional $500.
I'm looking at either having a 120V20A 5-20 or a 120V30A TT-30 circuit & outlet installed. The cost is expected to be somewhere around $300 to do so. In my garage, I have a 120V15A outlet (5-15) that I'd plan to just use in the interim. I'd probably have to figure out a way to use a halved PVC pipe to protect the wire from the garage door, or I'd have to figure out a way to drill a hole large enough for the cord to extend through with some type of escutcheon plate to stop critters from having easy access.
I work shift work, which has the benefit of it literally being an 8 hour work day. I will have the means to charge at minimum 12 hours between commutes. I park in a 2x2 (4 car) driveway, we do not have a large enough garage for anything bigger than a motorcycle due to home layout.
Also, I don't have "time of use" pricing from my utility. We've got tiers of pricing based on how much you use, divided into supply and delivery components. I pay roughly 17 cents per kWh, and with increased use it does jump to about 18 cents per kWh with rounding.
Thoughts:
*I am assuming 20% efficiency loss for the 120V circuits, though my understanding is that this overhead is fixed and decreases with an increase amperage, and again, I am "pessimistically" assuming a 300 Wh mile.
1. 120V15A Outlet in Garage - 120V*12A = 1440 W * .80 = 1.152 kW = 3.84 miles range per hour
- benefits: already installed, no extra cost here, adapter comes with car.
- negatives: have to figure out a way to get the cord from garage out of garage.
- slow charging - gains of 46 miles per day with 12 hours charging.
- benefits: significantly faster charging, would be easier to access since installed outside
- negatives: installation cost, adapter needed for purchase
- better charging - gains of 61 miles per day with 12 hours charging
- benefits: fastest 120V charging I can get, no electrical panel upgrade needed
- negatives: third party EVSE adapter needed, installation costs.
- better charging - around 90 miles per day with 12 hours charging
25 * 5 = 125 miles driven weekly; charging 12 hours @ 120V*12A for 7 days would replenish 322 miles of range.
What's the best way to weatherproof the adapter itself? I am expecting a Taymac plastic box for the outlet itself if installed outside, but what solutions can I use for an enclosure for the MC? Ideally I'd like to have some type of plastic or wooden "box" that's waterproof and mounted to the side of the house for the MC to stay in and be sheltered, and large enough I could hang the cord underneath it as well.
I have an electrify america station nearby that has a Chademo, but I'd need to buy the adapter. I also could use Superchargers as needed, as well...
Thanks, all.