Cancelling my reservation

[ℬête Noire]

It may not be an issue for you. For me, it's a "telling detail" that reveals an underlying design ethic of Model 3: the UI requires you to take your eyes off the road in order to do otherwise simple things.

This is not the hill you want to die on. It's a VERY bad example of that because digging in the glove box, the reason you popped it open, is past "taking your eyes off the road" territory, even past "taking your hands off the wheel", and straight into "taking your butt off the seat" territory.

Your eyeroll worthy assertion notwithstanding, unless this is a picture of you:

 

[gregincal]

But windshield wipers? Headlights? Cruise control set speed? Traffic spacing interval?

Windshield wipers are automatic. Never need to touch the controls (except the button on the stalk to do a sweep or wash the windscreen).
Headlights are automatic, I've never touched that control in any of my recent cars.
Cruise control speed is set automatically, and follows the cars in front of you. I don't generally need to fiddle with it.
Traffic spacing is dynamic, and I never change the setting.

It would be a shame to just have autonomous driving on this car, since it's the most fun car to drive I've ever owned.

Good luck with your better options. I'd love to have better options to choose from (because they'd have to be fantastic), but I just don't see them.

 

[Dr. J]

I can reach across and open the glove box without taking my eyes off the road.

You be better than me. {shrug}

 

[Dan Detweiler]

All this will be voice commands in time. At least that is what I believe it will be.

Dan

 

[SpiceWare]

...

1. Shouldn't be digging through the glovebox while you're driving.
2. Been a long time since I used paper maps, when I did I kept them in the passenger seat pocket which could be reached without looking nor having to first open anything.
3. You're worried about having to briefly glance at a screen, yet are OK with using paper maps while driving? Wow.

 

[gregincal]

I can reach across and open the glove box without taking my eyes off the road.

I'm sorry, but in my opinion reaching into the glovebox while driving is about 100 times more dangerous than anything you point out about the Model 3. Not taking your eyes of the road is one thing, but totally irresponsible distracted driving.

 

[ℬête Noire]

You're worried about having to briefly glance at a screen, yet are OK with using paper maps while driving? Wow.

Just finding the glovebox button alone, supposedly just touch feel. It's either Stevie Wonder up in there or Robin's disturbingly practiced at reaching across to pop that glove box open....which would beg the question of why not just use the driver door pocket for all this commonly used stuff.

 

[N5329K]

This is not the hill you want to die on. It's a VERY bad example of that because digging in the glove box, the reason you popped it open, is past "taking your eyes off the road" territory, even past "taking your hands off the wheel", and straight into "taking your butt off the seat" territory.

Your eyeroll assertion notwithstanding, unless this is a picture of you:

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You may have glided over the "telling detail" bit. It's not about a glove box, so no hill. And the last thing I'd want to do is dissuade someone from considering Model 3. It might be perfect for them. Just not for me.
As for relying on auto wipers, the accounts I read here suggest it's not that reliable or convenient. Especially in misty conditions (of course, it hardly rains in California any more, so maybe a non-issue). And setting cruise control speed with an onscreen (and small) plus or minus? Not one of Tesla's better ideas. But again, YMMV.
Robin

 

[Dr. J]

Sooo....nobody keeps gloves in the glove box?

 

[JRP3]

But windshield wipers? Headlights? Cruise control set speed? Traffic spacing interval?

Voice commands. They're coming.

* Dan beat me.

 

[ℬête Noire]

You may have glided over the "telling detail" bit. It's not about a glove box, so no hill.

Yet you keep making increasingly absurd assertions about the glovebox. If there was "no hill" before then this is live footage you:

 

[Sandiegodoug]

How about this storage area.
Easy reach, doesn’t unlock with touch screen. Wish our x utilized this area for storage.

 

[ℬête Noire]

Sooo....nobody keeps gloves in the glove box?

I never have. Frankly as the car manual to glovebox volume ratio has converged towards 1:1 over the decades, and center consoles have gained a lot more storage capacity, it's become increasingly unlikely that I keep anything in there. I used to keep my proof of insurance in there but now I just keep the latest one in iBooks on my phone.

 

[Sandiegodoug]

Windshield wipers are automatic. Never need to touch the controls (except the button on the stalk to do a sweep or wash the windscreen).
Headlights are automatic, I've never touched that control in any of my recent cars.
Cruise control speed is set automatically, and follows the cars in front of you. I don't generally need to fiddle with it.
Traffic spacing is dynamic, and I never change the setting.

It would be a shame to just have autonomous driving on this car, since it's the most fun car to drive I've ever owned.

Good luck with your better options. I'd love to have better options to choose from (because they'd have to be fantastic), but I just don't see them.

After having car for 3 weeks absolutely agree with these observations, and so do the people I’ve let drive it. My recommendation is not to cancel your reservation.

 

[N5329K]

Yet you keep making increasingly absurd assertions about the glovebox. If there was "no hill" before then this is live footage you:

You should definitely keep your reservation!
Robin

 

[ℬête Noire]

You should definitely keep your reservation!
Robin

I'll make sure to take that valuable insight under advisement.

P.S. Oops, I've run through my graphics quota for the week. Is it Friday yet?

 

[gregincal]

I never have. Frankly as the car manual to glovebox volume ratio has converged towards 1:1 over the decades, and center consoles have gained a lot more storage capacity, it's become increasingly unlikely that I keep anything in there. I used to keep my proof of insurance in there but now I just keep the latest one in iBooks on my phone.

Plus J1772 charge adapter. In the Model S anyway there's a little space that fits it perfectly. I haven't actually gotten it out of it's bag yet to check how it fits in the Model 3.

 

[206er]

Voice commands. They're coming.

* Dan beat me.

And when will this be rolled out? Before or after the SR version hits the market?

Space tourism to Mars is also coming... someday.

 

[206er]

I didn't check this when I was in Tesla showroom... does the glove box come with a motorized door? If not, the driver touches the on-screen button to pop it open but still has to reach the glove box to manually close it. The form does not seem to follow function, at least from the driver's perspective.

No it does not come motorized.

 

[gregincal]

And when will this be rolled out? Before or after the SR version hits the market?

Space tourism to Mars is also coming... someday.

Right along with a compelling electric car from another manufacturer.