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I thought I would start a new thread for 2024 on European bound ships carrying Teslas.
The first logical question is why on earth would anyone on a Tesla forum be interested in shipping?

The answer is because once you have ordered your revolutionary expensive new car you enter the Tesla blackout zone - a frustrating period of non-communication from Tesla when you have no idea of what is happening with your order. If you call them, they just say they 'are waiting for a match'. What does that mean? Tesla don't build Model 3/Ys to order - they build whatever they want and then match what has been ordered to what has been produced. This 'matching' usually happens around the time the car is loaded on to a ship. Aha! Shipping has suddenly become interesting!

All Model 3s for Europe are currently made in the Shanghai Gigafactory and are shipped to Zeebrugge in Belgium, Koper in Slovenia or Barcelona in Spain through the Suez Canal in a journey taking about 30 days At the time of writing the Suez Canal is being avoided by most carriers and are routing via the Cape of Good Hope adding about 10 days to the voyage from Shanghai. It also adds about $200-250 to the shipping cost of each vehicle. All Model 3s and Y's for the UK are currently shipped from Shanghai direct to Southampton. UPDATE From Jun 24 MY for the UK will be supplied from Berlin!
Normally Tesla fully charter ships to transport their cars but during 2022/3 they supplemented the charters by using available space on scheduled services too. In 2024 I think we may see a return to whole charters in an effort to keep costs down and keep control of itineraries.


If you are in Auz/NZ, shipments are from Shanghai.
If you are in Dubai, your Model 3 will be loaded on to a ship that heads to Jebel Ali. Currently there is about one shipment per quarter.
If you are in Israel, your Model 3 will be shipped to Ashdod from Shanghai and again currently there is one shipment per quarter. Model Y will come from Berlin but is harder to track. Currently there are no services to Israel.
If you are in Ireland your car is shipped to Dublin via Zeebrugge.

Model S/X are shipped from Baltimore to Zeebrugge.

I mentioned Q1 earlier- this is because Tesla work in quarters with Q1 running from Jan to Mar. The Tesla business model requires as many cars as possible produced in a quarter to be paid for (delivered) in that same quarter.
This means that in Q1 the last ship will leave for Europe no later than around 8 Feb in order to allow for a 36/37 day transit to Southampton/Zeebrugge and then a (hectic) delivery push in the last 10 days or so of March. (A couple of days later if shipping to Barcelona) It is logical then to expect to see a large number of export models for the UK/EU market to be clogging the Chinese production lines in January and early February. This explains the feast or famine nature of Tesla logistics. Elon has promised his staff that he will try to suppress the end of quarter wave. To an extent he has already succeeded in this - by moving all export production to China, the US domestic supply is now much more evenly spread throughout the quarter. Production in Berlin is currently interrupted by delays in components as a result of container ships avoiding Suez, however this should only be a short-term issue.

You may wonder why we in the UK should be interested in shipments to Zeebrugge, Koper and Barcelona? Often it may be difficult to determine whether a ship is heading to Southampton, Zeebrugge, Barcelona or Koper and so it's just as easy to track all the ships to Europe. Often the ship may call at Southampton and then head to Zeebrugge and so it makes sense keep track of everything heading to Europe anyway. It's useful for me if our European readers advise their expected delivery dates and when VINs are allocated as that can help identify where a ship is going.

There is an pretty good spreadsheet populated with the latest (and historical) confirmed shipping information from a variety of sources - Tesla Carriers. It may be more of interest to you later as you become more engrossed in this subject! Did I mention it can become addictive?

Anyway, I think we can expect to see about 13 boatloads to Europe in Q1.
That begs the next question - how big are the boats? The standard ocean going vehicle carrier is 200 metres long and 32 metres wide and can fit about 5000 - 5500 cars onboard. A Tesla is larger and significantly heavier than a standard car and so a maximum of about 4500 cars are in each shipment. There are larger vessels that can transport more and I will make a point of mentioning it if a larger vessel is being used.

Anyway the plan is to post details of the latest Tesla shipping news for 2024 to this thread.

I will keep and eye on Pier 80 San Francisco for Model S/X exports to Far East and Baltimore for S/X to Europe.

There are a number of ship trackers you can use to follow the ships and www.marinetraffic.com is one with perhaps the best free coverage but there are plenty of others. The ships transmit a signal which is picked up by shore based receivers (mostly hosted by amateurs) and forwarded to the website. The trouble is that the signal is a VHF signal meaning the receiver has to be within line-of-sight and once the ship goes over the horizon to the receiver that's it, unless you pay for satellite coverage which is not cheap. With the aid of satellite tracking I will provide a daily update on exactly where each 'Tesla' ship is and provide an estimated time of arrival to Zeebrugge and Southampton (the UK port of entry for Tesla). A talented reader of the thread @Frizzy, has created an excellent webpage where you can track 'Tesla' ships.
I'll also try and add some background info which you may find interesting.

Correctly identifying Tesla ships from Shanghai is not easy and quite often a 'suspect' ship turns out to be a false alarm. There are other sites that claim to track Tesla ships but actually just track every possible ship that departs Shanghai, which is not particularly helpful. I at least try and rule out the improbable ones based on my experience. It's also free! It helps enormously if when you 'chat' to Tesla about your order that you ask what ship your car is on or if they won't tell you the name, at least ask when it will arrive in Zeebrugge/Southampton. Please post your info to the thread or PM me!

You can help me and others by keeping any posts on this thread strictly to shipping related matters - questions about when to expect delivery, VINs and panel gaps have their own threads, which I have been known to visit and contribute to also.
 
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Hi tworthy

have an identic issue, have an order for a M3 RWD with Arval through the work scheme for electric vehicles, and the order is pending Arval

yours is still pending or did you find a way to move it forward, any advise is welcomed

Br
Hi Winacer - after making angry calls at Arval and talking to the broker sales, Tesla told me that my order is now ‘eligible for matching’. However, there is no change in the app (no delivery estimate showing and no VIN) so I don’t really trust that Tesla didn’t give me wrong info again.

I would recommend calling Tesla and Arval until they do something about it.
 
Summary:

GLOVIS COURAGE Currently in Southampton. Departs at midday for Zeebrugge - arriving early hours Tue 16 Apr.
HOEGH TARGET This ship is on a scheduled service (ie not a charter) however Tesla have used this service in the past to move cars to Europe (not UK). If you are in the EU and have been allocated a VIN you can find out if your car is on this ship by entering the VIN HERE. So far no Teslas have been identified onboard.
TANNHAUSER ETA Barcelona 22 Apr. Highly likely to be carrying Teslas for EU.
RCC COMPASS ETA Southampton 09 May. I'm 100% sure she is transporting Teslas to UK.
RCC AMERICA ETA Koper 20 May. Almost certainly a Tesla shipment.
ASIAN EMPIRE ETA Barcelona 16 May. Should appear on the map shortly.

All these ships can be tracked using the latest satellite derived position data on the map HERE
 
I thought I would start a new thread for 2024 on European bound ships carrying Teslas.
The first logical question is why on earth would anyone on a Tesla forum be interested in shipping?

The answer is because once you have ordered your revolutionary expensive new car you enter the Tesla blackout zone - a frustrating period of non-communication from Tesla when you have no idea of what is happening with your order. If you call them, they just say they 'are waiting for a match'. What does that mean? Tesla don't build Model 3/Ys to order - they build whatever they want and then match what has been ordered to what has been produced. This 'matching' usually happens around the time the car is loaded on to a ship. Aha! Shipping has suddenly become interesting!

All Model 3s for Europe are currently made in the Shanghai Gigafactory and are shipped to Zeebrugge in Belgium, Koper in Slovenia or Barcelona in Spain through the Suez Canal in a journey taking about 30 days At the time of writing the Suez Canal is being avoided by most carriers and are routing via the Cape of Good Hope adding about 10 days to the voyage from Shanghai. It also adds about $200-250 to the shipping cost of each vehicle. All Model 3s and Y's for the UK are currently shipped from Shanghai direct to Southampton.
Normally Tesla fully charter ships to transport their cars but during 2022/3 they supplemented the charters by using available space on scheduled services too. In 2024 I think we may see a return to whole charters in an effort to keep costs down and keep control of itineraries.


If you are in Auz/NZ, shipments are from Shanghai.
If you are in Dubai, your Model 3 will be loaded on to a ship that heads to Jebel Ali. Currently there is about one shipment per quarter.
If you are in Israel, your Model 3 will be shipped to Ashdod from Shanghai and again currently there is one shipment per quarter. Model Y will come from Berlin but is harder to track. Currently there are no services to Israel.
If you are in Ireland your car is shipped to Dublin via Zeebrugge.

Model S/X are shipped from Baltimore to Zeebrugge.

I mentioned Q1 earlier- this is because Tesla work in quarters with Q1 running from Jan to Mar. The Tesla business model requires as many cars as possible produced in a quarter to be paid for (delivered) in that same quarter.
This means that in Q1 the last ship will leave for Europe no later than around 8 Feb in order to allow for a 36/37 day transit to Southampton/Zeebrugge and then a (hectic) delivery push in the last 10 days or so of March. (A couple of days later if shipping to Barcelona) It is logical then to expect to see a large number of export models for the UK/EU market to be clogging the Chinese production lines in January and early February. This explains the feast or famine nature of Tesla logistics. Elon has promised his staff that he will try to suppress the end of quarter wave. To an extent he has already succeeded in this - by moving all export production to China, the US domestic supply is now much more evenly spread throughout the quarter. Production in Berlin is currently interrupted by delays in components as a result of container ships avoiding Suez, however this should only be a short-term issue.

You may wonder why we in the UK should be interested in shipments to Zeebrugge, Koper and Barcelona? Often it may be difficult to determine whether a ship is heading to Southampton, Zeebrugge, Barcelona or Koper and so it's just as easy to track all the ships to Europe. Often the ship may call at Southampton and then head to Zeebrugge and so it makes sense keep track of everything heading to Europe anyway. It's useful for me if our European readers advise their expected delivery dates and when VINs are allocated as that can help identify where a ship is going.

There is an pretty good spreadsheet populated with the latest (and historical) confirmed shipping information from a variety of sources - Tesla Carriers. It may be more of interest to you later as you become more engrossed in this subject! Did I mention it can become addictive?

Anyway, I think we can expect to see about 13 boatloads to Europe in Q1.
That begs the next question - how big are the boats? The standard ocean going vehicle carrier is 200 metres long and 32 metres wide and can fit about 5000 - 5500 cars onboard. A Tesla is larger and significantly heavier than a standard car and so a maximum of about 4500 cars are in each shipment. There are larger vessels that can transport more and I will make a point of mentioning it if a larger vessel is being used.

Anyway the plan is to post details of the latest Tesla shipping news for 2024 to this thread.

I will keep and eye on Pier 80 San Francisco for Model S/X exports to Far East and Baltimore for S/X to Europe.

There are a number of ship trackers you can use to follow the ships and www.marinetraffic.com is one with perhaps the best free coverage but there are plenty of others. The ships transmit a signal which is picked up by shore based receivers (mostly hosted by amateurs) and forwarded to the website. The trouble is that the signal is a VHF signal meaning the receiver has to be within line-of-sight and once the ship goes over the horizon to the receiver that's it, unless you pay for satellite coverage which is not cheap. With the aid of satellite tracking I will provide a daily update on exactly where each 'Tesla' ship is and provide an estimated time of arrival to Zeebrugge and Southampton (the UK port of entry for Tesla). A talented reader of the thread @Frizzy, has created an excellent webpage where you can track 'Tesla' ships.
I'll also try and add some background info which you may find interesting.

Correctly identifying Tesla ships from Shanghai is not easy and quite often a 'suspect' ship turns out to be a false alarm. There are other sites that claim to track Tesla ships but actually just track every possible ship that departs Shanghai, which is not particularly helpful. I at least try and rule out the improbable ones based on my experience. It's also free! It helps enormously if when you 'chat' to Tesla about your order that you ask what ship your car is on or if they won't tell you the name, at least ask when it will arrive in Zeebrugge/Southampton. Please post your info to the thread or PM me!

You can help me and others by keeping any posts on this thread strictly to shipping related matters - questions about when to expect delivery, VINs and panel gaps have their own threads, which I have been known to visit and contribute to also.
I see the Cherry Red for Model Y in Uk website for June delivery. Surely that is from Berlin as Shanghai are doing the Ultra Red?
 
I see the Cherry Red for Model Y in Uk website for June delivery. Surely that is from Berlin as Shanghai are doing the Ultra Red?
I was with Tesla yesterday (its part of my job) and can confirm that Quicksilver and Cherry Red Y are coming from Berlin. Thats straight from the horses mouth of somebody quite senior at Tesla UK.
 
I see the Cherry Red for Model Y in Uk website for June delivery. Surely that is from Berlin as Shanghai are doing the Ultra Red?
It hasn't happened yet but it is on the cards for UK and Ireland Model Y to be supplied from Berlin. The driver for this is the fact that Berlin will be producing RHD for the Indian market. Model 3s will continue to be supplied from Shanghai.
The final MY shipment from Shanghai should arrive in Southampton on 29 May.
 
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Summary:

GLOVIS COURAGE Currently in Southampton. Departs at midday for Zeebrugge - arriving early hours Tue 16 Apr.
HOEGH TARGET This ship is on a scheduled service (ie not a charter) however Tesla have used this service in the past to move cars to Europe (not UK). If you are in the EU and have been allocated a VIN you can find out if your car is on this ship by entering the VIN HERE. So far no Teslas have been identified onboard.
TANNHAUSER ETA Barcelona 22 Apr. Highly likely to be carrying Teslas for EU.
RCC COMPASS ETA Southampton 09 May. I'm 100% sure she is transporting Teslas to UK.
RCC AMERICA ETA Koper 20 May. Almost certainly a Tesla shipment.
ASIAN EMPIRE ETA Barcelona 16 May. Should appear on the map shortly.

All these ships can be tracked using the latest satellite derived position data on the map HERE
Hi, would you bet which ship could be carrying my Tesla? Ordered week back, Blue M3LR, Czech Republic. Got VIN assigned on invoice/source code on website. Estimate delivety date is 17-31 May in App. All tasks completed including payment. Tesla told me car is on ship right now.

Thanks
 
Hi @Mr Miserable, hoping for a bit of guidance.
My home port is Fremantle, Western Australia, and being right on the other side of the country we don't always share the same vessels as the Eastern Seaboard It does happen (see Morning Crystal on its way now due 27/4 and Paganella due in mid-June) but isn't the norm.

Are there any Tesla vessels on the cards for Fremantle you can see likely in between? Possibly Gulf Agency vessels? I've scouted and seen very little looking likely between those two.
 
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Hi Winacer - after making angry calls at Arval and talking to the broker sales, Tesla told me that my order is now ‘eligible for matching’. However, there is no change in the app (no delivery estimate showing and no VIN) so I don’t really trust that Tesla didn’t give me wrong info again.

I would recommend calling Tesla and Arval until they do something about it.

Hi. Have you managed to make any progress with this? Anyone else with Arval having this issue.

I placed my order with no Arval in Dec, lease expires Mar 1st, but am still waiting on my M3. The first estimate which appeared on Mar 1st said Jul-Aug. Current estimate in the Tesla app is may 12 - jun 29, which seems very broad. But no VIN matched.

Really really frustrating to hear that Arval account had been put on hold by Tesla... Having contacted both Arval and Tesla in March I was led to believe that there had been delays and I would get a match in future. Arval actually said it was due to Tesla and to follow up with them.
 
Hi. Have you managed to make any progress with this? Anyone else with Arval having this issue.

I placed my order with no Arval in Dec, lease expires Mar 1st, but am still waiting on my M3. The first estimate which appeared on Mar 1st said Jul-Aug. Current estimate in the Tesla app is may 12 - jun 29, which seems very broad. But no VIN matched.

Really really frustrating to hear that Arval account had been put on hold by Tesla... Having contacted both Arval and Tesla in March I was led to believe that there had been delays and I would get a match in future. Arval actually said it was due to Tesla and to follow up with them.
Hello, I’m on the other side of the world, and correct me if I’m wrong, but if you have an EDD with a date you have a vehicle assigned, no?

A VIN will be hidden if you have pending finance, as you seem to, but I would take from that if your process is the same as it is here (which I believe it is), if you use the chrome plugin you’ll see vinassigned as true
 
Hello, I’m on the other side of the world, and correct me if I’m wrong, but if you have an EDD with a date you have a vehicle assigned, no?

A VIN will be hidden if you have pending finance, as you seem to, but I would take from that if your process is the same as it is here (which I believe it is), if you use the chrome plugin you’ll see vinassigned as true
Sadly an EDD does not mean you have been assigned a specific vehicle. The EDD, which is produced by an algorithm, can vary wildly until such time as you have been assigned a VIN.
The VIN will be hidden until such time as Tesla declare it. VINs can be and are allocated to those with pending finance.
Hidden VINs cannot be 100% relied on - I saw my Model 3 hidden VIN change.
Since the Tesla deposit is so low, and many folk struggle to get their finances or finance in place, in time for delivery their VIN will be reallocated.
This is why I tell people that just because they didn't strike it lucky on the initial VIN allocation there is a chance they will be lucky with a VIN reallocation.
 
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Hi @Mr Miserable, hoping for a bit of guidance.
My home port is Fremantle, Western Australia, and being right on the other side of the country we don't always share the same vessels as the Eastern Seaboard It does happen (see Morning Crystal on its way now due 27/4 and Paganella due in mid-June) but isn't the norm.

Are there any Tesla vessels on the cards for Fremantle you can see likely in between? Possibly Gulf Agency vessels? I've scouted and seen very little looking likely between those two.
I haven't been tracking ships to Perth for sometime.
If I recall correctly the ships to Fremantle used to come via Singapore but as you say it looks like this may have changed.
At least they are not coming by train across the Nullarbor! (@Sturty will know the reason I mention this)
 
I haven't been tracking ships to Perth for sometime.
If I recall correctly the ships to Fremantle used to come via Singapore but as you say it looks like this may have changed.
At least they are not coming by train across the Nullarbor! (@Sturty will know the reason I mention this)
Thanks for the reply.

I’m watching the Salvia Ace as a possible, it’s off the coast of Shanghai now and will be here in a few weeks via Japan.

Aside from that, Paganella will have Teslas mid June.

As for the Nullabor, that sounds like a slow, dust filled journey where at the moment you may lose a car to flooding. Don’t fancy that wash job
 
TANNHAUSER is currently unloading in Barcelona. Although she will depart to Zeebrugge I don't think she will have any Teslas left onboard.
RCC COMPASS ETA Southampton 09 May. I'm 100% sure she is transporting Teslas to UK.
RCC AMERICA ETA Koper 20 May. Almost certainly a Tesla shipment.
ASIAN EMPIRE ETA Barcelona 16 May.
MORNING POST is currently loading at Shanghai South. She is bound for Southampton ETA 29 May and Zeebrugge ETA 31 May

All these ships can be tracked using the latest satellite derived position data on the map HERE
 
TANNHAUSER is currently unloading in Barcelona. Although she will depart to Zeebrugge I don't think she will have any Teslas left onboard.
RCC COMPASS ETA Southampton 09 May. I'm 100% sure she is transporting Teslas to UK.
RCC AMERICA ETA Koper 20 May. Almost certainly a Tesla shipment.
ASIAN EMPIRE ETA Barcelona 16 May.
MORNING POST is currently loading at Shanghai South. She is bound for Southampton ETA 29 May and Zeebrugge ETA 31 May

All these ships can be tracked using the latest satellite derived position data on the map HERE
Hi there, if Tannhauser doesn’t have any Teslas left onboard, what ship would be carrying Teslas bound for Ireland? I’m based in Ireland and my EDD is 17 May - 1 Jun. Thank you.
 
Hi Mr. Miserable. Firstly I'd like say a huge thanks for this thread and all your work. I've ordered my first Tesla and like most people I'm impatiently awaiting it's arrival. I'm in Ireland and ordered a RWD MY on the 21st of March. I've been assigned a vin in the app and the EDD is between the 8th and the 23rd of May. I've been following the ships closely and thought that my car might be on the Tannhauser as the dates seemed to fit. In your opening post you said that Irish cars are shipped from Zeebrugge so if the Tannhauser is unlikely to be carrying any more cars when she leaves Barcelona, do you have any idea what boat my car might be on? Could I be waiting on the Morning Post to arrive? Thanks again 👍
 
Hi there, if Tannhauser doesn’t have any Teslas left onboard, what ship would be carrying Teslas bound for Ireland? I’m based in Ireland and my EDD is 17 May - 1 Jun. Thank you.
I'm not confident that your car is onboard TANNHAUSER and think it more likely to be onboard RCC COMPASS.
At the moment, we don't know whether RCC COMPASS will head to Zeebrugge after Southampton but I reckon it's likely.
To rule out other possibilities, if you have your VIN, enter it here and let me know the results.
 
Hi Mr. Miserable. Firstly I'd like say a huge thanks for this thread and all your work. I've ordered my first Tesla and like most people I'm impatiently awaiting it's arrival. I'm in Ireland and ordered a RWD MY on the 21st of March. I've been assigned a vin in the app and the EDD is between the 8th and the 23rd of May. I've been following the ships closely and thought that my car might be on the Tannhauser as the dates seemed to fit. In your opening post you said that Irish cars are shipped from Zeebrugge so if the Tannhauser is unlikely to be carrying any more cars when she leaves Barcelona, do you have any idea what boat my car might be on? Could I be waiting on the Morning Post to arrive? Thanks again 👍
What are the 1st 3 letters of your VIN please?
 
I'm not confident that your car is onboard TANNHAUSER and think it more likely to be onboard RCC COMPASS.
At the moment, we don't know whether RCC COMPASS will head to Zeebrugge after Southampton but I reckon it's likely.
To rule out other possibilities, if you have your VIN, enter it here and let me know the results.
I guess if the RCC Compass is due in Southampton on the 9th of May it could conceivably be heading to Belgium afterwards and I could possibly take delivery closer to the 23rd of May if Tesla's dates are to be believed.
 
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