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a way to test bears resolve to hang on, and learn innovative cursing and invective, is to continuously tell themTo bears, it's actually quite like last year's 140 for bulls. 180 was the "bottom" so a 140 is about 23% loss. 290 was the "top" so at 356 is about 23% loss as well.
Last time the bulls held on, with Q4 2015 ER and the 80-90k deliveries in 2016 guidance. Let's see if the bears can hold on now.
To bears, it's actually quite like last year's 140 for bulls. 180 was the "bottom" so a 140 is about 23% loss. 290 was the "top" so at 356 is about 23% loss as well.
Last time the bulls held on, with Q4 2015 ER and the 80-90k deliveries in 2016 guidance. Let's see if the bears can hold on now.
"as of right now, in aggregate, you have lost $11,295,554,219.85 (billion $$),
There is a great thread on TMC somewhere that is updated monthly with competitive numbers, that is what I am basing all of my opinions on. There are probably some better resources, but its a quick look at the competition that is updated every month.
Elon Musk didn't know what Level 4 Automation was in Q2 2015... 2 weeks before Adam Jonas declared Tesla the "leader" in autonomous vehicles and that "in the spring of 2016" we should see huge leaps in ride sharing capabilities.
it's 2017... the only thing truly accomplished so far is the stock valuation... and a horde of followers that sit around all day and write the posts above.
I agree that price is the primary reason why Model X seems to have underwhelmed Model S growth, but this is temporary.
I believe Tesla priced Model X higher vs. competitors, because they learned from Model S experience that production constrain = missed profits.
I expect either significant Model X price drop later this year OR earlier-than-expected Model Y production start.
Most likely scenario: Drop Model X price by $5-7k by end-2017, then another $5-7k sometime in 2018, and produce Model Y in 2019.
the higher number causes them to ROFWSIG and help me learn new invectives, and can be used as a "tell"But that isn't accurate is it? You don't know how much they have lost in aggregate unless you know at what average price they shorted in to their positions at. (But it obviously wasn't at $0.)
They have probably only lost about half of that, so far.
The Germans priced their large CUVs well below their large sedans.
With FWD and the structure to support them, Model X is fundamentally more expensive to build than Model S. I always see a premium in Model X vs Model S. And therefore underwhelming sales for Tesla's CUV vs the Germans.
Elon deleted the tweet where he said either Model 3 or Model Y will have FWD.
I see Model Y having all conventional doors priced at Model 3 price. Like the Germans and having extremely impressive sales. Leaving Model X as a premium halo product.
Good catch. That's intentional. Maybe I should make it lead somewhere. People who voted no on that don't count. Stop Whining. Start Doing. Why 97% Of Us Are Hypocrites. #ParisAgreement
the higher number causes them to ROFWSIG
looks like i'll be sitting on the sidelines for this shareholders meeting.
up 125% since 2015 and enough to buy a new model 3
Goodluck to all.
I'm not so sure about the last paragraph.
Elon's comments on Model Y production line ("there will be nothing close to it"), I think, is telling.
We may get a surprising low price for Model Y.
OK, this is the second time you've used ROFWSIG, and Google has never heard of it. Can you explain what it means?
Too lazy to go look myself, but along the lines of: "while screaming incoherent gibberish"?I dont know exactly what I means, but I have seen winfield use it before. Something like rolling on the ground while crying themselves to sleep in a fetal position. Or something like that.