Here in scandinavia (and other places ), it quite offen become cold (half the year), in norway its not unusual to have minus 25 degree celsius (-13 degree F) or below.
I know the tesla Model S will be equiped with a electric heater somehow in the size of aprox 1500 Watt, and that the car can be preheated while charging.....witch is a nice feature.
However here we are doing quite a lot to insulate our houses (30 cm of insulation) to awoid wasting energy just flowing out in the snow, we are also installing solar heating panel on top of our houses to gather this heat ect. .....now if the tesla is made of aluminum witch transfere heat and cold quite well....
I can forsee that our electric bill will "go insane" if we where to have the car preheatet by electricity while charging all night - heating our houses is expensive already. luckly we can set a timer on the model S so it is only a few hours be fore driving the car heats up, this helps a bit.
One point where it might help this energy calculation at no energy cost is "recycling" waste energy from the motor. As I have understod the tesla Model S, it is like a ICE, having some energy wasted by the motor. In model S the motor is water cooled, I do not know if this water cooled motor is connected to the heating system inside the cabin, but I truely hope - no need to waste the energy in a radiator/condenser up front and at the same time trying to heat the cabin with a electric heater.
Does anybody know if the water cooled heat from the motor is being "recycled" inside the cabin like in a conventional ICE using it to heat the cabin (when needed) - in my pressent car (ICE) I regulary use the heater, and the fact that the heater is using energy witch else have been wasted is nice to know.
In my pressent car there is a small radiator right at the central point the air intake is entering the cabin under the dash. this radiator is made aluminium and at a size of aprox 10x20 cm - this is heated from the cars coolan system and delivers plenty of heat to the cabin - it is something simmilar I would like (hope) to see in the model S.
E.g. today with tempetur around 10 degree celcius (50 degree F) Im using the heater in my ICE car. As a person trying to think green, I would be a litle sad to know that my car is heating by energy witch could be used for something better and at same time knowing that the car is also wasting energy elsewhere witch could be used in the cabin.
Does anybody know anything about this ?
And YES, I know that 1500 even 2000 watt heater in the car willl not "drain" my battery mutch as this could run for hours without takeing more than 10% of my driving range. However it is not driving range Im concerned about - its the energy waste witch can be awoided soly by recylcling already pressent energy witch else would be wasted.
last I apologize for any speeling here in this post. Im, as you might have guessed, not english speeking person but danish
I know the tesla Model S will be equiped with a electric heater somehow in the size of aprox 1500 Watt, and that the car can be preheated while charging.....witch is a nice feature.
However here we are doing quite a lot to insulate our houses (30 cm of insulation) to awoid wasting energy just flowing out in the snow, we are also installing solar heating panel on top of our houses to gather this heat ect. .....now if the tesla is made of aluminum witch transfere heat and cold quite well....
I can forsee that our electric bill will "go insane" if we where to have the car preheatet by electricity while charging all night - heating our houses is expensive already. luckly we can set a timer on the model S so it is only a few hours be fore driving the car heats up, this helps a bit.
One point where it might help this energy calculation at no energy cost is "recycling" waste energy from the motor. As I have understod the tesla Model S, it is like a ICE, having some energy wasted by the motor. In model S the motor is water cooled, I do not know if this water cooled motor is connected to the heating system inside the cabin, but I truely hope - no need to waste the energy in a radiator/condenser up front and at the same time trying to heat the cabin with a electric heater.
Does anybody know if the water cooled heat from the motor is being "recycled" inside the cabin like in a conventional ICE using it to heat the cabin (when needed) - in my pressent car (ICE) I regulary use the heater, and the fact that the heater is using energy witch else have been wasted is nice to know.
In my pressent car there is a small radiator right at the central point the air intake is entering the cabin under the dash. this radiator is made aluminium and at a size of aprox 10x20 cm - this is heated from the cars coolan system and delivers plenty of heat to the cabin - it is something simmilar I would like (hope) to see in the model S.
E.g. today with tempetur around 10 degree celcius (50 degree F) Im using the heater in my ICE car. As a person trying to think green, I would be a litle sad to know that my car is heating by energy witch could be used for something better and at same time knowing that the car is also wasting energy elsewhere witch could be used in the cabin.
Does anybody know anything about this ?
And YES, I know that 1500 even 2000 watt heater in the car willl not "drain" my battery mutch as this could run for hours without takeing more than 10% of my driving range. However it is not driving range Im concerned about - its the energy waste witch can be awoided soly by recylcling already pressent energy witch else would be wasted.
last I apologize for any speeling here in this post. Im, as you might have guessed, not english speeking person but danish