woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Just reading the vibe on TSLA social media, it‘s starting to feel like expectations are rising a little high for Elon’s roadmap update…
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Does anyone know if future splits require share holder approval? Rumor I saw floating around somewhere.Tesla, please split soon and use dividend to award extra shares to holders of real stock to weed out all these naked shorters.
Just reading the vibe on TSLA social media, it‘s starting to feel like expectations are rising a little high for Elon’s roadmap update…
Depending on how big the split proposed is.Does anyone know if future splits require share holder approval? Rumor I saw floating around somewhere.
A lot of discussion on the UK data and while I love the message (M3 top-selling BEV, and 2nd best selling vehicle overall), to borrow a common counter-argument bulls use against bears, that's just ONE market. So, let's zoom out and TL;DR it's even better than the UK results.Writing this thread on the UK's transition to BEVs was a great way to miss the SP drama! I suggest you give it a read and ignore the daily noise!
@Knightshade has commented on this topic often. It is his opinion that shares need to be authorized first before a share split/dividend can be announced.Does anyone know if future splits require share holder approval? Rumor I saw floating around somewhere.
The issue was if Elon could surprise us with a split whenever he wished as you phrased it.
Since a vote, even one that's certain to pass, needs to happen to authorize more shares first- he can't (unless it was a very small split as noted which seems very unlikely).
No point banning this as long as it's transparent. They are allowed to take lobbying funds anyway.As much as it amuses me that Nancy Pelosi and husband have bought deep ITM Tesla LEAPS, I agree. What do you think?
Yes that is within the bounds of normalcy/ remember that warranty costs end out there and a major portion of advertising budgets go through dealers, not to mention rebates, bonuses, parts etc. IME one OEM was ~17% and another was ~14.7%. Those two were actual real from two ohm's that I personally dealt with. These numbers vary tremendously with a wide variety of elements. Overall though, to suggest 16.5% is entirely plausible. I know fo none who can be precise about that without substantial inside information. No OEM reports it completely and directly. The higher it is the more OEMs bury the numbers as much as GAAP allows, and GAAP allows wide latitude.Interesting graphic, and I believe sharing profits with the dealer is a huge disadvantage to legacy auto.....I don't believe 16.5% of new vehicle costs go to dealers though, that seems way too high IMO. Anyone here have any experience to comment?
But, it’s really not transparent… their trades MAY be AFTER the fact (by often months), but the information that many politicians are getting either through the administration, committees they sit on, closed door hearings they attend, policy that they are crafting before being announced is not transparent and front running any of this is not truly an open and full disclosure market. For ANY other group of participants, it would be considered insider trading. Why not for this body - that makes the rules, well I guess I just answered my question.No point banning this as long as it's transparent. They are allowed to take lobbying funds anyway.
Nope! F&I is excluded always. rebates are included as are warranty service and OEM supported promotions and advertising, as well as parts.It wouldn't surprise me particularly if dealership originated finance is included. They amount of fees that can be buried in the monthly payment is rather egregious.
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My apologies, Nassim has it covered.
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@Knightshade has commented on this topic often. It is his opinion that shares need to be authorized first before a share split/dividend can be announced.
Incidentally that RIGHT side of the chart is the same as the European EV market, and will continue to look that way for a while with VW continuing their marketsshare lead for a while.. it’ll probably come down from the current 25% market share, compared to Teslas ~16%, but I think the comparison will stay in place till we get the Model 1, or whatever it is called.
However, it is distressing to see how easily the SP is pushed around by a greedy few.
Boy, this is tough to handicap, especially from abroad. I’ll easily grant you that there are likely forces pushing for approval as well as delay.L
Given that they’ve produced enough already to have been doing testing ‘in the wild’ the logical expectation is that deliveries will begin soon after approvals. Six months is a long time.
Care to wager? I’ll give odds, say, 100 shares to you if I lose, 50 shares to me when I win.