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Not that I get what it means ...
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Did Georgia lose a car factory, or why all the jealousy? Honestly don't get it. But not a USian.I will say this - all things being equal (which obviously they are not at this point), Tesla will not be able to compete with Lucid if they continue to build cars in Fremont. Lucid is building their factory in Arizona I believe. As Elon stated a week ago, California workers have a sense of entitlement, and they simply don't have to work very hard (always some type of gov't safety net to catch them and they know it). Not to mention the higher labor costs. So, it's going to be hard for Tesla to compete in the long run if they continue to build cars in California.
There's no way Tesla could sell the CyberTruck at its stated prices if it were built in Fremont. I'm really anxious to see what happens to the price of the Y once it is being built in Texas. The paint quality will at least improve by a large amount.
It can be situational, but generally I agree. Some folks focus on the fact that you can charge faster than you can deplete but that really depends on how quickly you can get to the SC. Some of my normal SC stops are 5-10 minutes off the highway.
Did Georgia lose a car factory, or why all the jealousy? Honestly don't get it. But not a USian.
Do you have a source for the 30% larger battery? According to Car and Driver, the battery is much smaller now.
Lucid Air EV Has a Projected 517 Miles of Range
"Lucid recently shared its slippery 0.21 drag coefficient, and earlier this year, at an event for reservation holders, Rawlinson showed off the vehicle's single unit that houses the transmission, inverter, and motor. Lucid hasn't shared its battery capacity yet, but it's lower than what the automaker had originally planned. "In fact, we started off with a 130-kilowatt-hour pack . . . we announced that back in 2016. It's not that size. We've gone down quite a lot. And that's what I'm thrilled about because I want to get the numbers with a smaller pack, not a bigger pack," Rawlinson told C/D."
But Tesla did get a pretty fantastic deal on Fremont (thanks to those same factors you infer) and seems to have built a pretty fantastic and dedicated production team there too. So not all can be all that bad?Well, ask yourself why Lucid is in AZ, Nikola (yeah yeah) is going to build in AZ, Tesla built their Gigafactory in NV and is now threatening to move out of CA... the whole point is to not be in CA.
Well, of course it depends on the actual charge rate when you do stop, whether this is true or not. Since the "miles of range per hour" charge rate is often so much greater than any realistic "miles of range per driving hour", mathematically you will be wrong most of the time, assuming the same stopping places. Back when there weren't all that many superchargers, skipping them wasn't really an option, and the fastest journey was definitely to go as fast as you could to still make it to the next supercharger nearly empty, and charge just enough with a margin to get to the next one fast.True, but if you have to stop and charge to make your destination at least one more time, you are far better off to slow down and avoid the stop (if possible). The time it takes to replenish the mileage lost from driving higher speeds far exceeds the time saved driving fast. The only time I drive fast is when I know I'm on my last leg (or have to make a long stop regardless). It's very hard for me to convince myself to do this, but it proves itself to be true every time. And obviously the situation changes depending on the trip. But, unless I had 500 or 600 miles of true range, slowing down usually gets me to my destination quicker than driving fast.
The funny thing is, I'll sit there and try to calculate it all out in my mind. I've even rolled into the garage with 3 miles of range before to keep from stopping - probably saved 5 minutes overall.
I will say this - it's hard for me to drive less than 75, but I'll do it occasionally. Even 75 seems like you're crawling these days. But with AP, it's a ton better. At least you can just set the cruise on 75 and kind of chill out. When I have to drive long distances (which I NEVER do any more), I'm going to drive as fast as think I can get away with - can't stand to drive and want to hurry up and get it over with.
I think this is on topic as a safer charging experience might even out the Male/Female ratio in Tesla owners.
BTW - another of my concerns with stopping at SC's is the safety aspect. Man, the Macon, GA one downtown is down right SCARY!!! If you didn't have any method of defense with you there, you are nuts. I really wish Tesla had an emergency release on the charge cable. It sucks just sitting there at 2am knowing if someone were to do anything stupid, you can't move the car - and you sure aren't going to get out and try to unplug it real quickly. So, that has also motivated me to drive slower occasionally. Fortunately, Tesla put in another SC in Macon, in a much better location.
Wouldn't feel so bad at this point.It will be slightly annoying if the prophesized S&P inclusion boom does happen, only to bring the SP back to the 1600 range.
You would have no complaints from meIt will be slightly annoying if the prophesized S&P inclusion boom does happen, only to bring the SP back to the 1600 range.
Around town, certainly. On a trip 600-700 miles a day is pretty normal. Speed limits are 85 mph.You might want to read this article. Car and driver tested the car right along side a Model S Long Range Plus with 402 EPA rated range. When the Model S went into limp mode at 357 miles, the Air still had 20% capacity left. No, that's not over 500, but it is in the neighborhood of 460 miles at highway speed. That is still enough for most people's drive in a single day.
Lucid Air EV Has a Projected 517 Miles of Range
Man, you didn't read the article did you? This is NOT Lucid stating their numbers - this is Car and Driver AND an independent testing company simulating the exact EPA test.
Also, can you PLEASE post a source for these things you post? Like "The fact that it has been prove/shown that a Raven S gets over 400 miles on a highway trip from SF to LA". I just like to confirm what I read on the internet - not sure if you know this or not, but people can post anything. It's best to confirm before believing.
I will say this - all things being equal (which obviously they are not at this point), Tesla will not be able to compete with Lucid if they continue to build cars in Fremont. Lucid is building their factory in Arizona I believe. As Elon stated a week ago, California workers have a sense of entitlement, and they simply don't have to work very hard (always some type of gov't safety net to catch them and they know it). Not to mention the higher labor costs. So, it's going to be hard for Tesla to compete in the long run if they continue to build cars in California.
There's no way Tesla could sell the CyberTruck at its stated prices if it were built in Fremont. I'm really anxious to see what happens to the price of the Y once it is being built in Texas. The paint quality will at least improve by a large amount.
Didn't say he was the best author however, personally...that is not a fair comparison. Need a apples-apples comparison which manufacturers never do obviously....let's not get our panties in a bunch and wait for battery dayTalk about a horribly written paragraph. He states that the battery is rumored to be LESS THAN 130 kWh, then says if it is, it will be about 30% larger than Tesla's. So, 110 is less than 130. Is 110 thirty percent more than 100? NO!! I mean, who wrote this ignorant crap? Heck, is even 129 percent more than 100?
130 is 30% more than 100. ANYTHING less is NOT 30% more. So, the 2 statements are contradicting. That, or the guy simply can't do math.
Casa Grande is a small city about halfway between Tucson and the southern parts of the Phoenix area, so over an hour drive from either place. Population about 60k. Sure the land is cheap. Where are the workers?I will say this - all things being equal (which obviously they are not at this point), Tesla will not be able to compete with Lucid if they continue to build cars in Fremont. Lucid is building their factory in Arizona I believe. As Elon stated a week ago, California workers have a sense of entitlement, and they simply don't have to work very hard (always some type of gov't safety net to catch them and they know it). Not to mention the higher labor costs. So, it's going to be hard for Tesla to compete in the long run if they continue to build cars in California.
There's no way Tesla could sell the CyberTruck at its stated prices if it were built in Fremont. I'm really anxious to see what happens to the price of the Y once it is being built in Texas. The paint quality will at least improve by a large amount.
Lucid's sudden rush to prove absolutely nothing. That is the headline. We can play the mileage game all day without pricing and unlimited battery capacity. Most could make a 1,000 mi range car... so.
Reason this is out now, well before its maturity, is the fear of range hot button to drive down the SP ahead of battery day IMO.
All hype, but excellent buying opportunity.