E90alex
Active Member
Great. More useless blank space in the UI. At least give full FSD visualizations with the lane lines and everything if making it full screen.
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Great. More useless blank space in the UI. At least give full FSD visualizations with the lane lines and everything if making it full screen.
Unless they give us FSD visualizations in AP that seems like a waste of a feature.
Agreed. I don't see much point of having the visualization so prominent outside of testing. The only thing I use it for is figuring out what the car sees around it that makes TACC decide to hit the brakes for no apparent reason. Now that I've figured out what to look for, I can preemptively intervene before the car reacts. I'd really like the option to turn off the visualization completely and revert to the MCU1/MCU2 instrument cluster UI on my new Model S.Unless they give us FSD visualizations in AP that seems like a waste of a feature.
Probably better if they'd add the option to swipe left and get rid of the visualization all together.
I think it's useful for checking blind spots.Agreed. I don't see much point of having the visualization so prominent outside of testing. The only thing I use it for is figuring out what the car sees around it that makes TACC decide to hit the brakes for no apparent reason. Now that I've figured out what to look for, I can preemptively intervene before the car reacts. I'd really like the option to turn off the visualization completely and revert to the MCU1/MCU2 instrument cluster UI on my new Model S.
I think it's useful for checking blind spots.
Maybe if they ever develop a watch app. But no, there is no “watch key” function currently.I wonder if the “Second-generation Ultra Wideband Chip” in the Apple Watch Ultra 2 will work for rear hatch opening, door unlocking etc., since often I don’t haul the iPhone around.
The trial FSD visualization almost appears to be an overhead view and I can see cars all around me. I like it better than the blind spot camera view feature; may even turn it off so as not to distract me.
Plus you can spin that street view around with a finger to see All cars behind you.Similar to what I see in the Trial FSD visualization. I can see all of the vehicles atound me including the blind spots. The blind spot camera views were an improvement but they are small and one must study the images to spot oncoming cars. I can instanly assess the position of vehicles around me in the FSD visualization.
For those disagreeing, it would be interesting to learn why.The last thing we want is our car to start guessing where we are or if it's the person at the trunk (if it would use the camera) that's holding the phone key... With BT only, you just have no clue about the location.
Just to give an example, my M3 is parked in front of my house, and if I keep BT on, in different rooms of my house (at the side where my car is parked) my phone key is connected to the car. In not a single case, I would like to risk that my phone key is connected to the car and at the same time any person would be standing behind my car which would open my trunk.
With UWB on the other hand, the car knows exactly the position (and distance) of the phone key, at least this is how it works with Apple's solution with for example AirTags.
I use 'Watch for Tesla' and it can be used as a key and open truck (manually).Maybe if they ever develop a watch app. But no, there is no “watch key” function currently.
How long until tall owners get tired of bending over to put their face in front of the b-pillar camera?Yes, Tesla does use Bluetooth signal strength to determine whether it should unlock the door. Tesla has changed the strength recognition back and forth multiple times in previous releases. I recall in one of the releases last year, Tesla didn't recognize if I was at the door if I had the phone in my back pocket.
Next step would be phoneless instead of keyless entry: using facial recognition via cameras could be a better way for Tesla to identify owners or authorized drivers, even when they don't have their phone with them. This could improve security and convenience for Tesla owners.
I'd be happy with a repackaged key card in some other form factor than a ring (I don't even wear a wedding band, seen too many degloved finger pictures). I tried repackaging the "guts" of a card into a little RFID fob case but broke it in the process. My use case is for workouts etc. when I want to leave the phone in the car but a card form factor doesn't work. I want something I can put on a small carabiner keychain and clip in my pocket.even when they don't have their phone with them.
Actual question, how do you trust such a limited view of the vehicles around you though? For example, you can't tell from this angle if a vehicle is approaching your blind spot at a fast speed in an adjacent lane. That happens pretty often in any sort of unexpected traffic slowdown. unexpected traffic slowdowns are when I want to be able to quickly assess if it's safe to switch to a different lane most often. Even if you drag the visualization around it only shows you a few feet behind your vehicle.Similar to what I see in the Trial FSD visualization. I can see all of the vehicles atound me including the blind spots. The blind spot camera views were an improvement but they are small and one must study the images to spot oncoming cars. I can instanly assess the position of vehicles around me in the FSD visualization.
Really not liking the snubbing of Intel 3/Y vehicles with this update.
I have several buddies who bought their M3/MY in 2022 and have Intel processors. To think that a car that is barely 2 years old can’t handle a UI update is concerning.
Tesla has added/removed certain features (games, zoom) for specific chipsets, so how can this update not be tailored to Intel cars too?
If the thought process is “upgrade your car” then Tesla should make Ryzen MCU upgrade kits, my 2019 has 35k miles on it, no interest in getting out of it any time soon, but I would upgrade to AMD if it was an option (I know it’s not and most likely won’t ever be)
Actual question, how do you trust such a limited view of the vehicles around you though? For example, you can't tell from this angle if a vehicle is approaching your blind spot at a fast speed in an adjacent lane. That happens pretty often in any sort of unexpected traffic slowdown. unexpected traffic slowdowns are when I want to be able to quickly assess if it's safe to switch to a different lane most often. Even if you drag the visualization around it only shows you a few feet behind your vehicle.
Apparently they are (cant find the tweet but pretty sure I'm not hallucinating).Maybe if they ever develop a watch app. But no, there is no “watch key” function currently.
There is only one real solution to this problem, because there will always be driving scenarios that no computer or human can see or predict in a single perspective point of data processing (views from one car).I would trust it as far as I would trust a conventional blind spot indicator light other cars use; maybe a bit more. I would like jt if the visualizion showed cars farther to the rear than they do now. I would think that the software engineers could do that. The cameras are good but detecting fast approaching cars can be difficult at times. Things like glare on the screan on bright days, the small size of the image combined with other objects in the field of view can make detecting an oncoming vehicle difficult. One has to study the scene for a moment to decifer what is actually occurring. Also, one has to activate the turn signal to see anything approaching; the viualization is always there and easily glanced at whenever desired without the need to activate it.
How is trunk open deemed non essential ?Personally I finally feel like the current version of the UI has been perfected, they resolved all the issues people had with it when it was first added. Even the notorious auto-wiper problems have become far less frequent, and we're able to turn them off again.
Not a big fan of the redesign based on those screenshots, the map definitely should be bigger and more visible. Though maybe the fact I still have an Intel chip means I won't get that change? The other new features sound nice, but not essential