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Just another reporter with twisted facts. Unless of course he knows something about the car that Fisker doesn't. Henrik very clearly states in the video above that the engine only drives a generator and never turns the wheels also that the two electric motors are in the rear attached to a differential and applying 400 hp to the rear wheels.
Actually from the mirror under the Karma in the picture above it looks like one on the front of the rear differential and the other on the back of it.
Looks like the Fisker charge port matches what Coulomb Technologies plans to offer.
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It seems clear that there are two big eMotors straddling the rear differential, but if the cars.com guys is right there is a reverse driveshaft (back to front) also driving the front wheels. I am dubious and doubt it. I think the "transmission tunnel" is filled with batteries, not a driveshaft...
Most of the other stuff that guys says seems correct, so I am surprised that he may have flubbed on something so fundamental. Perhaps he just assumed there must be a driveshaft based on the transmission tunnel?
Most of the other stuff that guys says seems correct, so I am surprised that he may have flubbed on something so fundamental. Perhaps he just assumed there must be a driveshaft based on the transmission tunnel?
From RoadandTrack.com -- New Car Search - 2009 Fisker Karma (1/2009)
On a slightly different note, seems like there is a lot more stuff in the Karma
than the Tesla Roadster, makes me wonder how Fisker can plan to sell it for
$87,900 when Tesla can't even build a Roadster for that much.
Yep, was going to mention that. And it doesn't have a carbon fiber body either. Even so, maybe they sell the first batch at a loss to get interest going?
Even if Fisker and Tesla can turn a "per car profit" it is going to take a while to recap all those big R&D $.
Even if Fisker and Tesla can turn a "per car profit" it is going to take a while to recap all those big R&D $.
That also means that the Fisker Karma batteries are being deep cycled many more times. If that car is being driven 40 miles per day, those batteries are getting abused a lot more than a Tesla Roadster that is driven 40 miles per day.
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@James - it goes back to the chemistry. The batteries used by PHEV manufacturers like the Volt and FIsker use chemistries that are much more tolerant of cycling over time. The two main ones we hear about are Lithium Manganese and Lithium Iron-Phosphate. The lG chem batteries in the volt are Li-Mn and so are the batteries made by ALP, Fisker's battery supplier. They can cycle several thousand times with a much lower degradation than Lithium Colbat Oxide cells cycling several hundred times
It cannot be just that.
Tesla is supposedly willing to sell the complete ESS for 30.000 USD.
ESS with only half the current capacity would still cost more than 15k, closer to 20k $ because of electronics and support systems.
Fisker is in for a price increase.
To add to Siry, these batteries' high cycling tolerance is generally a tradeoff with other capabilities.
A battery with high cycling capabilities may not have high energy density, or a battery with high energy denisty may not have a high power density. There are tons of trade-offs in battery design.
A battery with high cycling capabilities may not have high energy density, or a battery with high energy denisty may not have a high power density. There are tons of trade-offs in battery design.
Somehow the front looks a bit different here:
Fisker looking for 40 U.S. dealers to sell the 2010 Karma
Lots of pix here:
2010 Fisker Karma - a set on Flickr
Fisker looking for 40 U.S. dealers to sell the 2010 Karma
Lots of pix here:
2010 Fisker Karma - a set on Flickr
I thought so too but could not put my finger on it. Yes the obvious black grill without the vertical "teeth" look, but there is something else. Maybe the whole nose got pinched like a hand squeezing someone's lips shut.
Maybe the ends/edges of the lips are not as upturned.
Anyway. it's better. -And we have not asked for our money back.
By the way. the Sunset is probably going to be 25Kish more that the coupe.
Maybe the ends/edges of the lips are not as upturned.
Anyway. it's better. -And we have not asked for our money back.
By the way. the Sunset is probably going to be 25Kish more that the coupe.
They changed the appearance of the lower air intake...
And at least from this angle, the main grill appears to be grimacing less... that is the corners seem less upturned. Could also just be the color. Looks better anyhow.
But I wish they had just done the styling more like the Tramonto.
Has a much more sensible interior as well.
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