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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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It normally starts low and then ramps up as to gauge what your charger has to offer. If nothing happens in ten minutes, just delete and restart your onboard again albeit it all seems normal to me.

Zappi uses a diferent way to connect to IOG than Wallbox (The one I use) does.. the errors you describe tesla side look standard to me though (on both zappi and wallbox)

Also, make sure any schedules are off as per instructions.
Thanks for your help but still no luck, think I'll have to boost it.

Removed the device and re-added it. Weird as it never did a test charge or anything. Just added it and then once I closed the app a new schedule from that very min toll 6am appeared. Left it 10mins and still nothing has started.
 
Opened my engergy app and just says waiting. Have it in eco+ mode, charge rate is at the default of 50 and boost settings has scheduled tab selected but no schedule.

I'm 20mins into my latest window with octopus. Not looking good to me.

Still says charging error. No power and noticed says 16a instead of 32a.
I have the Manual boost tab selected in my Zappi app, I don’t think it will work with schedule tab selected

Once IOG kicks in it then shows a bar with how much charge will be added (this depends on what percentage you selected) and shows progress of charge and Boost button is greyed out
 
Well I think I've got it working.

I reckon it was because my zappis signal to my router wasn't the best and the commands weren't getting there. Hooked it up to the extender I got for that and the car and tonight it is working.

Had 1kw added during my 8:30 to 9 window but it was stopped. Wondering if the microwave and stuff suddenly being used caused that.

Anyway just check as my 9:30 until 6am window is on and it has started charging.

🤞

In the zappi settings what should I have the charging mode set to under eco+. I've left it at percent but wondering if that should be nearer to 1

Thanks everyone for your help
 
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I just went through this EV 'special' tariff thing with E.On....must admit I didn't research it at all....just read the headlines without the small print.....midnight to 07:00 at 6p per kwh....great I thought....what I didn't figure was the big jump in the day time tariff rate over my previous deal with British Gas. I don't believe there is any saving to be made by these so called EV Tariff deals.

Its a bit of a con TBH.
 
It’s a bit of a con TBH.
I think it’s very dependant on how much you use during those peak hours. With two EVs and shifting our main usage to between 11:30pm and 05:30am where possible (think tumble drier, dishwasher etc), we’re now paying 12.35p/kWh for electricity over the whole month, which I believe is a pretty good deal.

We don’t have any solar or battery in there either…
 
Its a bit of a con TBH.
Not at all. It just doesn’t fit everyone’s usage pattern.

Not trying to be unkind but it sounds like you fell for the marketing and failed to adequately investigate the product before buying it (as you indeed admitted to in your post).

As @spooksman mentioned above, the trick is to try shifting usage as much as possible into “cheap o’clock” (although I am aware that some energy companies only give cheaper rates for the EV and not the whole house. I am not sure if yours is such a tariff).

I suppose the only thing you can do is figure out how much more per month you’re paying, how much that adds up to in a year and whether it might be better to just pay the early termination fee (if there is one) and change to a more suitable tariff.

Good luck!
 
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Like many things, you need to do the sums for your own circumstances. I’ve not moved to one of these as my mileage is now relatively low so not much charging at home, my daytime consumption can’t easily be moved to overnight (blame the wife) and the convenience of not having to care when we do stuff is worth a few quid for the easy life, probably less than premium connectivity costs. I'm sure if we ask enough people we'd get a complete cross section of answers including from those that benefit big time.