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Then who holds the liability when someone sells this airbag on EBay as a fits all and it doesn’t work. They should not let owner keep air bags on a swap.Still bullshit. It’s not illegal to own an airbag. In fact all of us own several within our very cars.
If it’s not a core charge issue (which should be reflected on the invoice), I’d just remove the airbag myself before handing the car over. The wheel / bag combo can be sold as a set to someone wanting to retrofit yoke to wheel
The seller of the airbag would hold the liability. Again, it's our ****ing property.Then who holds the liability when someone sells this airbag on EBay as a fits all and it doesn’t work. They should not let owner keep air bags on a swap.
this one made me spit my coffee out laughing "there is a tweet from the CEO promising".The main reason they should take care of this for customers is there is a tweet from the CEO promising all cars from Nov 2021 have the hardware there just pending software update (not true at all) and it was never retracted or corrected by Tesla's non-existent PR department.
I wish I had the time to bother with taking it to small claims. It was a straight up 100% false statementthis one made me spit my coffee out laughing "there is a tweet from the CEO promising".
We have owned 5Tesla's since 2015. If I had $1 for every time Elon has "promised" something or made a statement and actually held accountable for it I could take my family of 4 out to Five Guys Burgers tonight for an all-U-can eat burger fest!!I wish I had the time to bother with taking it to small claims. It was a straight up 100% false statement
Oh I know. I never actually counted on it happening. But usually his lies are about future products, while that one claimed that all the cars delivered past a certain date had the hardware.We have owned 5Tesla's since 2015. If I had $1 for every time Elon has "promised" something or made a statement and actually held accountable for it I could take my family of 4 out to Five Guys Burgers tonight for an all-U-can eat burger fest!!
I have a mobile service appointment next Tuesday for replacement under warranty (for turn signal button issues)
Apparently you can interpret that to mean the center of the right side of the steering wheel. I don't get that at all from the tweet but some do. Either way, Tesla could have cleaned that up quickly.I wish I had the time to bother with taking it to small claims. It was a straight up 100% false statement
Yeah. This promise was different. It was specific to a existing product built after a certain date with a promise of a software update to fix an issue.Oh I know. I never actually counted on it happening. But usually his lies are about future products, while that one claimed that all the cars delivered past a certain date had the hardware.
configid:
114 (cfg_steeringheatertype)
data:
04 (ZF_ROUND)
05 (ZF_YOKE)
configid:
121 (cfg_steeringwheeltype)
data:
00 (ROUND)
01 (YOKE)
02 (YOKE_HORN_IN_DAB) -- Never used. presumably they were planning on horn within the airbag itself, and this might have been what Elon's infamous tweet was referring to about all cars having the hardware
03 (YOKE_MECHANICAL_HORN)
04 (ROUND_MECHANICAL_HORN)
I agree. Your vehicle no longer complies with the FMVSS as it doesn't have a horn symbol on the airbag to let people know where to press for horn activation. As such, it would probably be illegal for Tesla to reuse the old air bag. (At a minimum it would expose them to liability claims.)Tesla says the new airbag isn't compatible with the new wheel. I am pretty confident that the only difference is the embossed horn symbol, however I cannot prove that. If you want to be 100% safe, you should replace the airbag as recommended by Tesla.
It's actually *not* required if the horn is activated by pressing the center of the wheelI agree. Your vehicle no longer complies with the FMVSS as it doesn't have a horn symbol on the airbag to let people know where to press for horn activation. As such, it would probably be illegal for Tesla to reuse the old air bag. (At a minimum it would expose them to liability claims.)
No identification is required for any horn (i.e., audible warning signal) that is activated by a lanyard or by the driver pressing on the center of the face plane of the steering wheel hub;
We also don’t know if this interfaces correctly with the car for proper airbag release. I wouldn’t risk this at all if it were me.I agree. Your vehicle no longer complies with the FMVSS as it doesn't have a horn symbol on the airbag to let people know where to press for horn activation. As such, it would probably be illegal for Tesla to reuse the old air bag. (At a minimum it would expose them to liability claims.)
The actual airbag connection is unchanged (and in fact technically the connector isn't even a part of the steering wheel) and the airbag control module reports no errors.We also don’t know if this interfaces correctly with the car for proper airbag release. I wouldn’t risk this at all if it were me.
I'm just saying I would not risk it. That's my bottom-line response. I don't doubt these airbags are exactly the same. Well, actually I do. I'm 99% sure they're the same, but the 1% is too much of a factor that it would bother me daily. To each, of course.The actual airbag connection is unchanged (and in fact technically the connector isn't even a part of the steering wheel) and the airbag control module reports no errors.
Tesla wouldn't let me keep my old airbag but I do have the old wheel. But really like the new one. It's time for them to address the dumb decision to eliminate the gear and turn signal selector at least on the S and X and see what happens. Sales is an issue for Tesla now so giving people extra excuses to not buy the car (no matter how amazing not having those features is to some people) doesn't work anymore.Yeah that's fair. I have no safety concern personally. Anyone who does have a concern should just grab the airbag (assuming Tesla would sell it to you). It does comfort me that the swap routine doesn't actually change any parameters for the airbag module itself