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Tesla certainly would never do such a warranty as they'd lose more than it was worth. But getting 300-400k+ is certainly possible. https://insideevs.com/news/717654/tesla-model-s-400k-mile-battery/ And buying at auction probably wasn't a great place without some way to get car inspected. Agree.

I wouldn't worry about the IRA getting repealed anytime soon if ever. A lot of things would have to happen to make that possible.

This might be an option https://grubermotors.com/services/model-s-main-battery-pack-repair/

Exactly. Until the car (or if) it's level 4-5 autonomy then get rid of traditional inputs like turn signal stalk. Until then, at least leave it as an option. Even if paid.

I don't think it's changed enough in 4 years to make the upgrade worthwhile either. Either the S will go away or a complete redesign is in the cards I would think in the next 2-3 years.

Bringing back turn signal and gear selector stalk as standard or a paid option at least would help sales too I think.

Odds are they will bring it back now and then. It was a 'one time only' transfer for supercharging before end of 2023 as well and they brought it back a month later to end last month as you noted.

A mobile tech did the whole thing in my garage when I was away and didn't think it was worth the battle. Just happy to finally have it the way it should have been from the start but the price was a little absurd given it was their design issue and they lied about a software update to fix it.

Inverter is built into the car, correct. So maybe worth bringing your car and the cable to Tesla for service check. Good luck.

I think they should add the ability to make it customizable since it's really not that useful now.

Tesla wouldn't let me keep my old airbag but I do have the old wheel. But really like the new one. It's time for them to address the dumb decision to eliminate the gear and turn signal selector at least on the S and X and see what happens. Sales is an issue for Tesla now so giving people extra...

I mainly leave it on so if I forget to precool the car, it doesn't go over 100 in the car. But I usually remember so probably no necessary. But it's nice to have the car cool down quicker than if it got 140+ in my car.

Someone in my local Tesla group posted the same thing. Hadn't seen that before. I guess all you can do is wait and see if it completes in the next few days.

Please let it be retrofittable. Won't be cheap though if it's possible as even the steering wheel with center horn was $2,000.

I think the new steering wheel is smaller in diameter than the 2020 and earlier models. It does block off some of the UI as the new UI was designed for the yoke and they never thought to update it when they came back with the round steering wheel. Really shouldn't be too hard for them to fix that.

My original Model S had just ultrasonic parking sensors and that was it. And that was fine really. So current system is definitely a step up. 360 would be nice and probably needed to keep up with competition but don't think it's mandatory (assuming Tesla can get close with vision only). But they...

They had/have a massive and very loyal following for the first decade with Elon being at the center. We won't talk about his side issues or politics with him but he also has probably forced the autopilot team to do things against their wishes. They clearly weren't ready to eliminate some of the...

Your son's home charger is also ~7kW and charges fine? Are you able to test your cable at your son's house? But if your car charges normally at your son's house and work, there must be something with your outlet. Have you had electrician come by?

Got the new center horn hardware retrofit (not center of the right side of the steering wheel software fix). It's really nice to have. Takes away one of my biggest problems with the new car. I'd love to have the turn signal stalk back but less of an issue. And the gear selector could be...

Tesla needs to hear this from as many current owners as possible. At least make it a $250 factory option or something. Really should not be that hard to install when you're only making 20,000 or so cars a year.

It's not superior but it's what we have since Elon eliminated all sensors other than cameras. But it's gotten to the point where at least it's not horrible.

Just used it for parallel parking. The spot was large and it took a bit of extra time but it worked well.

not sure what your comment is about. I never said people thought you could sleep. My point was we all know you can’t do that. That we aren’t even close to that so let people who want it have traditional controls. Especially since not everyone has FSD.

They are linked. The argument from Tesla has been ‘why waste money on traditional controls when we will not be touching the steering wheel at all some day?’. We aren’t even close to that day.

Yeah. This promise was different. It was specific to a existing product built after a certain date with a promise of a software update to fix an issue. But got mine installed yesterday. Not a free software update but glad to have it.

Apparently you can interpret that to mean the center of the right side of the steering wheel. I don't get that at all from the tweet but some do. Either way, Tesla could have cleaned that up quickly.

I have. Have FSD with my new 2023 Model S. It's the first version that's truly usable I think but still not there. And not everyone has FSD too. So for those that will never get FSD and until it's perfected and legal to go to sleep and have FSD take over, I think they should just give people...

Tesla told me I could keep old steering wheel. But doesn’t seem to be anyone to sell it to even though it’s in perfect shape.

I know RPM Tesla sells custom wrapped wheels so maybe I can get $300 of the $2,000 back from the free software update that Elon promised. Turned into a $2,000 hardware update but still. I emailed RPM Tesla to ask.

My install is next week. Will they let you keep the old steering wheel (not the airbag of course)?

Great price but hopefully people can keep their car long enough for resale to matter less.

What's your take on FSD 12.3? It seems it's finally getting to the place where it's decent. Can't ignore it so nothing really changes from the driver's perspective or responsibility but big upgrade.

The CEO clearly either lied or incorrectly believed back in May 2022 that all cars since Nov 2021 just needed a software update, Tesla could have simply corrected that statement. Since they didn't do that quickly (or ever), they could have thrown people a bone and done it for $700-$1,000 even...

Sounds like a hardware issue so don't think you'll get any remote fix for this. You're going to likely have to take it into Telsa.

Ah. Thanks. I finally got a new version with FSD 12.3. Impressive update.

Makes you wonder why it's a $2000 retrofit but I guess since the software (impossible to do) update was never going to be happen, at least this gets me closer to the car I wanted. With Enhance turn signal stalk, I think I'll be set.

Getting mine installed this weekend supposedly. They said mobile service can even do the install.

It doesn't do that at all right now I thought. At least the versions with just vision enabled. https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision

Not an engineer either but I assume it'd be a new platform and architecture and not worth the engineering effort on an old platform. If they don't ditch the S and X, I'd expect those features to come along with a body refresh, structural battery pack, 4680 cells....etc So a few years down the road.

Just a guess but that likely won't happen for a few years. It would take a complete redesign of the Model S I believe. About the only thing you could hope for in the next few months would be that front bumper camera and ambient lighting.

I've charged at 40A or lower for 13+ years with a Tesla and it's never been an issue for me at least. Especially with so many Superchargers in the area on the off chance you misjudged and needed a much faster charge, you likely can get it. I'd just keep using your mobile cable maybe until it...

Still waiting for 12.3 on HW4 but reporting it to Tesla is a great idea.

I was able to order the parts so waiting on installation. $2,000 for everything plus tax they said.

I tried that multiple times as well. Couldn't get it to work consistently by pushing the center of the right side of the steering wheel. So am getting the overpriced retrofit. But glad they are actually offering it. I doubted they would for at least a year.

Glad it works well. They really shouldn't be making a profit off the retrofit for round steering wheel. I assume it costs them less than $2,000 to fix their obvious mistake (and a promised free software update).

We are finally able to order a retrofit to add center horn for those that dislike the capacitive horn button. Doesn’t fix the other issues some have with lack of stalks but a start. For yoke and round steering wheel. Of course Tesla is charging $2,000 for it. Some other threads on this topic...

It was promised by Elon to be a free software update but guess Tesla forgot about that.

Tesla is no longer in the position that people have no good alternative. So losing sales over $50-100 in parts seems like a bad move. You'd think Tesla could at least offer that as a paid 'upgrade' option for $250 or something like that.

I think you'll get used to some of it over time. It's a much nicer car than my 2012 at least. Thankfully you should be able to update to a center horn soon (for a cost I'd assume) so that should take care of that issue. There is a third party company working to bring back turn signal as well...

Still on that 2023.44.30.8. Would be great to try FSD 12 at some point. For those that have it, is it really an improvement?