Supercharger - Quincy, WA

[Mrbrock]

I will guess that Quincy/George/Moses Lake are very low use SCs and therefore are excellent choices (for Tesla to increase revenue without impacting availability). I’ve been to all of these and they are mostly always unused and certainly less desirable (at gas station and grocery store) than others like Ellensburg or Ritzville (Starbucks, fast food). My next guess for the MagicDock would be Entiat and Tokio/Sprague (again, gas station with little other amenities). SCs near populated areas, especially near Tacoma-Seattle-Everett would probably be a mistake at this point in time. Every time I’ve charged “over there” the stations have been close to full. However, the “best” locations, Tesla-wise, would be SCs at showrooms like Liberty Lake, and Vancouver. These would serve as additional selling/marketing to non-Tesla owners. I can’t speak to the larger metro area ones like Seattle, Portland, Bellevue since those were very busy even years ago, so I stay away. Probably too busy to justify having non-Tesla EVs adding to the charging burden (again, just a guess).

Boardman fits the no amenity, unpopulated part but odd that there are ccs chargers in the same lot. Not turned on yet but literally in the adjacent parking spaces.

 

[scurtis]

Not only are they low usage superchargers, but they're really bad holes in the CCS network. Driving from Seattle to Spokane you really have to stop in Ellensburg and there's a really small EA charger that's often full in that location.

The next v3 location that Tesla really trounces the CSS network is out in Forks. That location can get busy on travel days, but it's the only level 3 charger of any kind on the 163 mile drive from Port Angeles EA charger to the Aberdeen RAN or EA charger. Add in a trip to any two common destinations like Hoh rainforest, Rialto beach, Cape Flattery, etc. and you're closer to 250 miles between level 3 charges.

pretty sure ritzville has EA stalls. I know ellensburg has the ones at taco bell. The tokio and quincy would be good magic dock. Last time I was at quincy it was actually quite full which was surprise. At tokio, I've never had more than 2 others with me.

 

[Pricee2]

Is there a way to tell, without going there, how many chargers at each location have the magic dock?

 

[Big Earl]

Is there a way to tell, without going there, how many chargers at each location have the magic dock?

So far it has been all of them. I haven’t seen any partial magic dock installs.

 

[Pricee2]

So far it has been all of them. I haven’t seen any partial magic dock installs.

Thanks.

 

[Watts_Up]

Is there a way to tell, without going there, how many chargers at each location have the magic dock?

You can check if the Google map 'Street View' have been recently updated.

- You can get the direct Google map location using the link from the Tesla/findus web page: Driving Directions

You can check the number and layout of the stalls:

And see that those stalls have a Magic Dock:

Note: It would have been great to have the first stall with the charger on the left side to allow cars with a trailer or bike rack to charge easily.
But it seems that those were using the pre-installed set of four stalls and V3 charger, so difficult to have a custom layout, or ADA access.

You could search also some other EV charging web sites such as PlugShare.com - Quincy, WA where users might have posted some pictures,
and showing that the cable was long enough for their non-Tesla car:

 

[Kuhz]

I’m more curious wether the cord was long enough to reach that model Ys port with 4 bikes on the rack…..

 

[Mrbrock]

I’m more curious wether the cord was long enough to reach that model Ys port with 4 bikes on the rack…..

They should have backed in perpendicular to the last stall on the right. The bikes would be in the parking spot and there’s just gravel driveway on that side.

 

[israndy]

And see that those stalls have a Magic Dock:

What was this supposed to be a photo of? What did you circle in yellow? The cord coming out of the post?

Magic Docks look like this:

 

[Mrbrock]

What was this supposed to be a photo of? What did you circle in yellow? The cord coming out of the post?

Magic Docks look like this:
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Yes, hopefully just saying look here for a large black box. Otherwise, all super chargers have magic docks apparently...

 

[Watts_Up]

What was this supposed to be a photo of? What did you circle in yellow? The cord coming out of the post?

Good catch... the picture with the blue Taycan shows the Magic Dock.

The Google Street View was captured before the update...

 

[israndy]

I was just curious about the yellow circle

 

[Mrbrock]

Looks like Tesla has someone in place for site maintenance.
@Guacahummus @corywright @Big Earl

 

[ImScotty]

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Looks like Tesla has someone in place for site maintenance.
@Guacahummus @corywright @Big Earl
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This is the second time this happened at this location… someone local continues to vandalize this location.

 

[Seattle]

This is the second time this happened at this location… someone local continues to vandalize this location.

Hopefully they can put up some kind of surveillance and figure out who is doing it and stop it.

 

[israndy]

The local Oakland Supercharger has had one of those robot security trailers in place since it opened (the Walmart next door has two), when I was there recently the cameras, lights and solar panels were all stolen, heck the whole tower was missing.

 

[electrons4u]

In the not-too-distant future, Tesla could deploy one or more Optimus bots, programmed for security, to guard Supercharger stations. Then the questions become:
* What will they be authorized to do?
* Will they just observe, and contact someone if thieves try to steal something?
* Will they be able to take action and place themselves between the thieves and any equipment?
* Will they be able to grab thieves and hold them until law enforcement (or Tesla, the utility company, or contract security) arrives, which presumably they will summon?
* Will they be authorized to use whatever force is necessary to protect property, including themselves?
* Will they adhere to Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics?

 

[Mrbrock]

In the not-too-distant future, Tesla could deploy one or more Optimus bots, programmed for security, to guard Supercharger stations. Then the questions become:
* What will they be authorized to do?
* Will they just observe, and contact someone if thieves try to steal something?
* Will they be able to take action and place themselves between the thieves and any equipment?
* Will they be able to grab thieves and hold them until law enforcement (or Tesla, the utility company, or contract security) arrives, which presumably they will summon?
* Will they be authorized to use whatever force is necessary to protect property, including themselves?
* Will they adhere to Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics?

Will thieves be able to steal (or deface/disable) them too? Seems like adding more of a target to have them on site. Tesla just needs to use their amazing FSD Vision to identify thieves

 

[israndy]

That msg might be better served by the Teslabot robot forum, oh right, we don't have one, crazy (reported)

Pretty sure Elon doesn't plan on putting robots into the market that can out run or overpower humans. I would hope they have a little guard booth they live and charge in and when a car arrives at a site that needs plugging in the 'bot will walk over and plug it in, and then go back to their protective booth.

Perhaps when the sun comes up they can come out and walk around picking up trash and if a stall was vandalized they can check it out and order the parts needed to repair it. Maybe even take a Supercharger apart when no one is around and replace the cable from a stash of them in their booth. Would be cool if the tech could remotely control them with an AppleVision and maybe gloves.

 

[electrons4u]

Will thieves be able to steal (or deface/disable) them too? Seems like adding more of a target to have them on site.

That's where Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics comes in:

• First Law: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
• Second Law: A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
• Third Law: A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

The temptation will be to get rid of the Third Law, so that the robot can protect itself, even if it has to harm a crook to do so. We can say, "Those guys are thieves who deserve what they get!", but that's a slippery slope.

Perhaps when the sun comes up they can come out and walk around picking up trash...

The bots will have IR vision, so can clean up in the dark. Might scare someone charging late at night, though, so might need a sign saying "Beware of Bot", but that sounds like the bot is dangerous, so maybe "Robots Can Work at Night" or "Night Robots at Work". Maybe have them play happy Disney tunes or ice cream truck music to set the mood so people don't freak out. In the summer, it wouldn't be the Hollywood Tesla Diner, but they could hand out ice cream, too.

BTW, has anyone ever seen an ice cream truck at a SC? A Buc-ee's or Target or any other store probably wouldn't allow that, but maybe Tesla can hire a few for locations with no food (and who are security guards in disguise as well).