im.thatoneguy
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I'm all for this. I probably do like 7,500 miles a year * $0.02 = $150. Would eliminate the stupid $75 extra tax I pay.
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Is Washington gasoline tax 50 cents per gallon? Average car gets 25mpg, so 2 cents/mile times 25 = 50 cents/gallon.SB 5444, to impose a mileage tax on owners of electric and hybrid vehicles
https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/li...on-owners-of-electric-and-hybrid-vehicles.pdf
Text of SB 5444 SB 5444 would require the WSTC and state Department of Licensing (DOL) to create a plan for implementing a per-mile charge on electric and hybrid vehicles by December 1, 2022. The plan would include mileage reporting options, recommended rates and collection methods, options for working with other states or countries in developing and administering the RUC, options for payment plans as well as offsets and rebates, a governance structure and transition plan with the Department of Licensing (DOL) as the lead agency that would operate and administer the RUC, and recommendations relating to privacy protection.
The bill directs that by July 1, 2026, electric and hybrid vehicles would pay a RUC of two cents per mile. In June of 2029, that rate would increase to two and one-half cents per mile. This would replace the $150 electric vehicle fee and the $75 transportation electrification fee that EV owners pay now when they renew vehicle registrations., as those fees would be repealed that same year. Drivers who wish to pay a RUC sooner could do so through an early adoption program that would begin in 2025, and could have their EV fees waived.
Money collected from a RUC would be deposited into the Motor Vehicle Fund and used for preservation and maintenance.
Key Facts
1. Senate Bill 5444 would require the Washington State Transportation Commission (WSTC) and state Department of Licensing (DOL) to create a plan for implementing a Road Usage Charge (RUC) on electric and hybrid vehicles by December 1, 2022.
2. The legislation is premature given the artificial cost-drivers officials impose on transportation projects. These should be eliminated before imposing a new tax on the public.
3. Owners of electric vehicles pay $150 each year as a gas tax offset. If lawmakers feel that is too low, they should consider raising it, rather than imposing a new and administratively costly tax to replace it.
4. Privacy protection is a critical element of the RUC, so any potential data vulnerability should be corrected before imposing a RUC system.
5. Rather than rushing implementation of a RUC despite unresolved privacy concerns, a better approach would be to first allow the Commission to complete its federally-funded research over the next few years and report concrete findings back to the legislature.
6. Any per-mile charge should be protected under the state constitution’s 18th Amendment, which protects money for highway purposes only.
7. To increase public trust, lawmakers should reduce artificial cost-drivers in transportation, and take preliminary steps to ensure any per-mile charge directly benefits and protects the drivers who pay it.
It's 49.4 cents/gallon.Is Washington gasoline tax 50 cents per gallon? Average car gets 25mpg, so 2 cents/mile times 25 = 50 cents/gallon.
Oregon has an optional $.018 per mile program. Could save a little if your mileage is really low. I think EV registration is $220 less per 2 years with that option so the break even point is around 6k miles per year.I recently acquired a 2013 model S in Oregon. Forgetting that I had some months back read a newspaper blurb about new DMV fees, I was shocked when my registration tab was about $300 more than expected. These are road usage fees, but not based on miles driven. I for one have several cars and am retired, so my Tesla would not rack up very many miles, but I pay the same amount as someone commuting etc. At least plates here are for TWO years!
I doubt any of the money goes to superchargers buildout, that’s all out of Tesla’s pocket.Has anyone seen an accounting of where the current EV fees go in Washington State?
I heard some or all of it was directed towards charging infrastructure build out??? Purely speculating this is why Washington has more Super Chargers than Oregon???
Out of state travel may not really be such a problem. After all, every mile traveled causes wear and tear to roads somewhere, so you may pay your home state for damage to other states' roads while people in other states are paying at home for wear and tear due to their driving in your state.I like the pay per mile idea but it should add a weight factor as well and EVs should be 1.5 cents per mile and gas vehicles 2.5 cents. Remove the gas tax, implement RUC per mile and add a flat weight tax (x amount per pounds or whatever calculation). Incentivize EVs a bit more. Electricity is cheaper than gas now but that may change when the transition to EVs happens.
I’m fine going in annually to have a mileage check. I’m not sure how to deal with the out of state miles driven. I don’t drive out of state much so it wouldn’t really effect me but I know that’s not the case for everyone.
The main flaw is that all 50 states will not go to pay per mile at the same time (if they ever do at all). Ideally it would be done on a federal level (with the Feds doling out the funding based on an estimate of miles driven in each state), but politically speaking, that will never happen.Out of state travel may not really be such a problem. After all, every mile traveled causes wear and tear to roads somewhere, so you may pay your home state for damage to other states' roads while people in other states are paying at home for wear and tear due to their driving in your state.
Then again, my argument may have a flaw for those states that are bedroom communities for adjacent business centers; New Hampshire and Boston come to mind.
As a use tax, that is absolutely awful.Like I said in my original reply, tax each EV $150 a year, or whatever the tax needed to be raised is. In fact, just extend the flat tax to all vehicles and remove the gas tax. No monitor needed, very little administration.
Out of state travel may not really be such a problem. After all, every mile traveled causes wear and tear to roads somewhere, so you may pay your home state for damage to other states' roads while people in other states are paying at home for wear and tear due to their driving in your state.
Then again, my argument may have a flaw for those states that are bedroom communities for adjacent business centers; New Hampshire and Boston come to mind.
To the topic of tracking, monitoring & reporting: I know we're being tracked both personally and meta-datically already, but I'd hate to see any new precedent of government reporting sourced from our cars or homes or persons. If a mileage-based tax is adopted despite the points discussed above, then I like the self-reporting of annual odometer readings the best. Simple, least intrusive, maintains the important feeling of voluntary compliance with little real risk of successful cheating. If a type-it-in method isn't good enough, then I could envision an option in the Tesla app/website that, under owner control, creates a VIN-associated report, QR code or whatever, for upload or mailing to tax and/or DMV authorities each year. About the same as other reporting requirements and associated software. This could also include any system-health diagnostics to satisfy states that still want safety inspections. The emissions-testing and safety-inspection stations should largely wither and eventually disappear, with only a small backup to handle compliance issues flagged by law enforcement