VW Fallout: $2.0 Billion for ZEV Infrastructure Buildout

[RubberToe]

Looks like maybe our buddies over at Ford got caught with their hands in the cookie jar of emissions and mileage issues. Perhaps Ford will get to pony up the next $2,000,000,000 penalty to be applied to expanding EA's network.

Ford probing possible problems with fuel economy, emissions tests

 

[Jeff N]

FYI, it’s been awhile. I wrote an update on Electrify America yesterday:

After having spent a year installing over 140 DC charging sites, Electrify America is now in the process of rolling out updated software and services for users of its expanding nationwide network....

A recent update of the software controlling the charging dispensers improved the readability of the screens during charging and also added an informational popup touting an upcoming smartphone app....

The company’s website is also now teasing the new smartphone app for Android and Apple’s iOS. The app is expected to enable subscription pricing discounts as discussed in a recently updated “terms of service” document online....

https://electricrevs.com/2019/04/29...harger-software-update-phone-app-coming-soon/

 

[SageBrush]

"
The company’s website is also now teasing the new smartphone app for Android and Apple’s iOS. The app is expected to enable subscription pricing discounts as discussed in a recently updated “terms of service” document online...."

The CCS car universe better hope so since it currently quite expensive, on the order of about 50 cents a kWh for a 20 kWh charge.

 

[Jeff N]

Electrify America has finally got a phone app along with a new pricing strategy.

Electrify America says that a new mobile app will become available later this month along with a new pricing strategy that will drop basic prices by about 20 percent. A new discounted subscription plan and a new 3-tier pricing model based on vehicle charging capability are also being introduced.

The new app, for Apple iOS and Google Android phones, will enable customers to search for and locate chargers and then pay for and start a charging session without physically using a credit card at the dispenser.

https://electricrevs.com/2019/05/06...ows-new-mobile-app-reveals-new-pricing-plans/

Also, their CA and National 2018 annual reports are now linked from their news release web page. I read them and there are no big surprises.

News and updates | Electrify America

 

[doghousePVD]

I think the aspect of the utilization data that may be important is if CARB makes then install H2O refueling stations, and no one uses them. That will be readily apparent in the statistics, and that information can be used as an argument in the 3 subsequent tranches against installing any more H2O refueling stations. That presumes they are underutilized versus the charging stations.

RT

I really don't think any money is going for H2O, ie, water fountains.

 

[FlatSix911]

Significantly more costly than Supercharging... Electrify America announces new app, membership plans, pricing structure

The Electrify America Pass membership will include the standard per-minute cost of charging, plus a $1 session fee. Pass+ will have a $4 monthly subscription fee. It promises the lowest per-minute price, and Electrify America says members will receive an added discount off of standard pricing.

Electrify America’s new pricing structure is based on three power levels: 0-75 kW, 76kW-125 kW, and 126kW-350kW. The charging network notes that pricing is by the minute, and the per-minute costs will be determined both by the power level the car is capable of charging at, and the state where the charger is located.

Electrify America lists its current pricing as $0.30/minute to $0.35/minute, on top of the $1 session fee. Ars Technica reports the new standard cost should be less than $0.30/minute for the slowest rate, and those who charge through an OEM-negotiated program (Audi, Porsche, and Lucid owners thus far) should pay less. Exact pricing should be out around the same time as the app and new membership options, later in May.

 

[FlatSix911]

Dieselgate disaster — states squandering their settlement funds - Electrek

Nearly $3 billion in funding from Volkswagen’s Dieselgate settlement designed to go toward cleaner transportation in the US is being underutilized in EV infrastructure and adoption, according to a recent study which grades all states based on their spending plans. In fact, at least 14 states could see all of their allotted funds go toward diesel vehicle projects.

The stunning study comes from the United States Public Interest Research Group (US PIRG), which gives only 15 states a C grade or better when it comes to policies that can increase access to clean transportation, including electric vehicle charging and electric bus fleets. The rest of the states earned D or F grades.

 

[Jeff N]

Today is the rollout of the new mobile apps and pricing.

https://electricrevs.com/2019/06/03/electrify-america-releases-new-app-big-price-changes/

 

[FlatSix911]

Today is the rollout of the new mobile apps and pricing.

https://electricrevs.com/2019/06/03/electrify-america-releases-new-app-big-price-changes/

 

[Brando]

Seems Tesla SuperChargers are still a big plus.
Only Tesla may know (have the data) if this can be used as a demand lever.
Any long distance drivers can't seem to praise enough.

 

[WannabeOwner]

Seems Tesla SuperChargers are still a big plus.

Reading the chatter on iPace forum about finding 3rd party chargers that work and are reasonably fast (and that is 50kW at best) is very depressing. I have no idea why they put up with tit (other than they have to) ... but they justify it with "I like the car, stopping for an hour to charge is therefore OK", albeit that stopping and finding that pump doesn't work and then trying 3 other locations before actually charging is obviously a PITA

So, yeah, Supercharger is definitely a USP for Tesla

Of course for anyone who never drives out of range on a day then 200 mile range, and overnight charge at home, is all they need.

 

[Jeff N]

Electrify America only has 14 sites open today in California but plans to have at least 150 open by the end of this year.

https://electricrevs.com/2019/06/13...-electrify-america-lags-behind-in-california/

Electrify America recently opened its 209th site, yet only 14 are located in the Golden State even though California receives 40 percent of the company’s investment dollars.

Elsewhere, the company has already opened more than half of its roughly 324 non-California locations that are planned for completion by the end of 2019.

 

[RubberToe]

Daimler recalling another 60,000 cars in addition to the 700,000 April recall. Dieselgate lives on!

Pretty soon its going to dawn on these guys that nothing good will ever result from putting internal combustion engines in cars...

Daimler forced to recall more Mercedes cars in emissions cheat probe

 

[cpa]

Daimler recalling another 60,000 cars in addition to the 700,000 April recall. Dieselgate lives on!

Pretty soon its going to dawn on these guys that nothing good will ever result from putting internal combustion engines in cars...

Daimler forced to recall more Mercedes cars in emissions cheat probe

Your remark may very well be true. But it is the old capitalist mantra. We can spend $1 to make $.25 with the understanding that it may cost us another $.10 if things go bad. We still make $.15. But there is no need to risk that extra ten cents today, because there are decent chances that we will never have to pony it up, or if we do, it will cost less than ten cents.

 

[Brando]

BAIL OUT - the modern corporate strategy. Ask GM, FCA, Federal Reserve bank cartel (which now includes every investment bank - there are technically NO investment banks, they all changed their charters to get the bail out money.

 

[FlatSix911]

Your remark may very well be true. But it is the old capitalist mantra. We can spend $1 to make $.25 with the understanding that it may cost us another $.10 if things go bad. We still make $.15. But there is no need to risk that extra ten cents today, because there are decent chances that we will never have to pony it up, or if we do, it will cost less than ten cents.

Not sure we understand your new math... sounds like you lost $.75 - .85 on every dollar spent.

 

[WannabeOwner]

But there is no need to risk that extra ten cents today, because there are decent chances that we will never have to pony it up

Ford Pinto anyone?

 

[cpa]

Not sure we understand your new math... sounds like you lost $.75 - .85 on every dollar spent.

Maybe it is because your reading comprehension skills are poor or English is a second or third language for you.

To make is to gain or earn. "I work to make money."

To earn is to yield a return or profit. "I earned $30 on that sale."

Since you seem to be a mathematical genius, you are doubtless familiar with substitution. Try it.

 

[FlatSix911]

Maybe it is because your reading comprehension skills are poor or English is a second or third language for you.

To make is to gain or earn. "I work to make money." To earn is to yield a return or profit. "I earned $30 on that sale."

Since you seem to be a mathematical genius, you are doubtless familiar with substitution. Try it.

Nonsense... name calling will not help your logic fail.

 

[Jeff N]

Some Electrify America sites have been going offline due to a cooling system issue

Roughly 30 Electrify America locations have been experiencing a problem with chargers shutting themselves down for CCS charging due to a problem in their liquid-cooled cable system within the charging dispenser. The sites use charging equipment supplied by Efacec and are primarily located in the southeastern region of the U.S. Some 200 other sites remain online using equipment from different suppliers.

Other charging providers using the same Efacec equipment may also be having problems including Allego which has units in Europe.

According to Electrify America spokesperson Mike Moran, the company began recently noticing that the Efacec equipment was automatically shutting itself down.