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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Krugerrand
Meow
So bet on every horse in the race to win and hope it’s not any of the first three favorites to cross the line first?
What's even funnier is that on CNBC right now they have a bright-red "BREAKING" banner that says Rivian secured 2.5B in financing--the problem is the article rehashes old news that everyone already knows. It's not "breaking" at all.
In any event, I like Rivian and wish them the best. Waay more reputable than Nikola. Rivian has at least been working hard for the past few years, they brought their trucks to Flagstaff a couple years back for an overlanding expo here.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
So we're selling at $1398 and buying back in at $1350, right? Go team!
If someone really wants to short NKLA, or any stock for that matter, can’t they just enter a synthetic short position and not worry about the borrow rate?
What am I missing? The risk of losses is still infinite as it is a short position, but hey, who ever said you could make money by betting the wrong way? Is there an added risk with this I am missing? Maybe the stock simply never moving until the options expire? Even then one of the legs is a sale so that would be 100% profit.
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TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
"Breaking News" is just another banner ad. For sale just like any other space on the CNBC front page.
I'd love to see what that purchase process looks like. Do you just overly call some guy and read him the type you want displayed?
Krugerrand
Meow
The percentage may be a WAG, (which I actually think is more along the lines of 50/50 at this stage - because people), but the one thing that’s for sure; the committee is feeling/will definitely be feeling the pressure. The more headlines suggesting or otherwise that TSLA is poised/readying itself/should be added, the harder it gets for them to bypass it and/or the better the reasoning they’ll need to keep it out. I’m curious to see what that reasoning might be. It’s got to be good for a belly laugh and laughing is healthy for us. (See people, that’s how you turn a frown upside down and think positively at the same time you want to choke someone.)
Because I enjoy a good, outlandish tale, one of those where you say, ‘You can not make this excrement up!’, I’m starting to cheer for a ‘No, TSLA will not be part of the S&P 500 because (fill in the blank)’. That alone can yield so many interesting outcomes, least of all adding fuel to Elon’s fire. Nothing more destructive to the old guard than a riled up Elon.
I’m excited. It’s going to be like having Mayhem on our side.
lafrisbee
Active Member
OT (Still. Last post on this while the Market is open)
They were very caring ladies..often late at night one of them would come out and climb in the tent to check and make sure I was not too cold. I will at it was the coldest Winter on record and I stayed comfortable in a cheap $20 tent with their assistance. I swear they had a sock on the backdoor door knob system in place...just to make sure their dog didn't suffer.
I shorted because NKLA puts are very expensive.
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
It wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't make it to $1350, at least for long enough to actually get any.
Are the calls cheap? If IV is equivalent both ways then selling the calls counteracts the IV in buying the puts. I guess an imbalance in the IV would hurt this strategy.
JusRelax
Active Member
I remember when I checked a while back, there was a massive imbalance between call and put prices.
Krugerrand
Meow
This thread is definitely stories around a campfire while eating s’mores right now. You know what the next step is, right? Don’t make me be embarrassed on all your behalf’s.
Krugerrand
Meow
Yeah, big miss on your part. Should have listened to your parents.
lafrisbee
Active Member
I read it that way as well...just like ALL the lukewarm EV models from the ICE Automakers claiming they did not make more EV's because they could not get batteries. I'm sorry, I did not read any article where Money was waved in front of the Battery-makers faces begging for batteries because of a backlog of orders for the ICE Companies EV's.
The ICE Auto companies created a scenario where they could save face instead of admitting their vehicles were not near as good as they needed to be, and also cost them money to make.
I'll be driving back from CO on July 23rd with my 2 kids and my ex-wife (long story, but are are friendly enough to vacation with the kids at the same time and trade them back and forth over the week). So I'll either be in a super good mood, or a bad one depending how the 22nd goes.
and then...the TSLA long realized...that the short call was coming from....INSIDE HIS OWN BROKERAGE! Boo!
Electrek has a better article on Rivian--there actually is new funding secured, by Soros, Ron Baron, BlackRock, Fidelity, big players that back Tesla.
Rivian secures $2.5 billion funding from Tesla investors and more - Electrek
Rivian secures $2.5 billion funding from Tesla investors and more - Electrek
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Quite the choppy MMD today! Not as easy to drive SP down as it used to be. Awaiting our $1,400.58 close....
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