I read all about that manipulation. In the end it didn’t cost me anything compared to the situation where I had not sold (in fact I lowered my base price a bit, but that was pure luck). The only thing I lost was some pride.
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I read all about that manipulation. In the end it didn’t cost me anything compared to the situation where I had not sold (in fact I lowered my base price a bit, but that was pure luck). The only thing I lost was some pride.
SageBrush
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CNBC published
NIH doctor says 25% of coronavirus cases in China are 'very serious,' requiring 'intensive care'
And in the first couple of lines Fauci is quoted as saying
The thing is, there is a HUGE difference between 'relatively intensive' and 'really intensive' so a headline that lumps them all into "very serious" is flawed reporting and click-bait.
CNBC does not restrict its pathetic reporting to Tesla.
NIH doctor says 25% of coronavirus cases in China are 'very serious,' requiring 'intensive care'
And in the first couple of lines Fauci is quoted as saying
The thing is, there is a HUGE difference between 'relatively intensive' and 'really intensive' so a headline that lumps them all into "very serious" is flawed reporting and click-bait.
CNBC does not restrict its pathetic reporting to Tesla.
Welcome Back, @Right_Said_Fred! But in my mind you never left. 
Trust me. Many of us know what you went through. I was a lurker, and I rode it down last year from $375 to $180 with you. It'll just take some time for you to get used to seeing such large $ balance in your portfolio. And that's a good thing!
Trust me. Many of us know what you went through. I was a lurker, and I rode it down last year from $375 to $180 with you. It'll just take some time for you to get used to seeing such large $ balance in your portfolio.
And that's a good thing!
powertoold
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Still, 25% requiring any sort of intensive care is a lot. But then again, all the isolation for patients with coronavirus is likely making their status worse.
just for some history. Fidelity had 16.7 million shares around April 2018 (9.89% of Tesla). They trimmed a lot of shares through early 2019. T Rowe Price had 10.79 million shares in that time frame too and cut its' stake over the same period.
cleantechnica had an article about it: Much Of Tesla's Stock Is Held By Institutional Investors. Why Do Short Sellers Claim Otherwise? | CleanTechnica
Krugerrand
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Actually we kinda did know what today’s SP would be and it is.
I'm at X shares plus some calls on margin. My goal is to get to Y shares. then no calls, no leverage, no margin. Then I'll uninstall my trading app on the phone, cancel the realtime market data subscription and relax for some years.A mod chickening out, now that’s a story. I saw some people have been referring to my decision to liquidate my whole TSLA position after the SP came crashing down from 960. Why that happened? Lately I had been too much focussed on the effect of the stock movements on the financial value of my portfolio, which at the top was up 720k, and a few trading hours later was up 520k. After having ridden the SP down from 300 to 178 in the spring of 2019 I thought I had balls of steel. But my stomach was the problem. It churned. So I bailed.
At first that felt good, the uncertainty was gone. But that didn’t last long. In fact, just a few hours.
I am a true believer in a bright future for Tesla. It will be the #1 technology brand in the world. And likely the most valuable company in the world. I believe the stock value will go up at least 10x and maybe even 20x. But in the heat of the moment I lost sight of all of that.
It felt as if I had betrayed Elon, who several times went through hell to save Tesla. And as if I had betrayed all the steadfast longs here, a lot of whom I’ve started to appreciate over the last years. I visited this thread yesterday, but felt like an outsider. I saw you guys complain and cheer, but couldn’t join you.
I started to watch some videos. Cathy Wood. Ron Baron. David Lee. The ones by David were especially helpful. I started to realize that I had to focus less on the swings and look more at the long trend and focus on the long term goal I’ve set for myself. And if it drops 100-200 points, that doesn’t make much difference because we know it will be 10-bagger or 20-bagger. I got my confidence back. Huge shout out to @DaveT.
So today I decided to get back in. All in. No timing, because in the end it doesn’t really matter if you get in at 735 or 765. Or even 550, 650 or 850. I ended up buying at 745, which does lower the base price for my shares by 15 points to 225 (but that’s no reason to do this again!).
It feels incredibly good to be back in! And even if it goes down, maybe even by a lot, I’ll hang in there. With all of you. Because I know what the goal is and I know we will get there. There will be a lot of dips along the way, but that’s okay.
So I hope you guys will take back the lost son...
Until then: that are the chances for a big gap up on Monday? I already loaded some calls, but I'm not fully loaded yet.
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Mondays and Tuesdays have been our consistently green days for a while now. IMO though we have lost the steam and the market is back to being unsure about Tesla so I'm not expecting anything in particular.
Forty three posts stultifyingly identical to the 327 already hashed over in the "FSD Yanked" thread have been scraped off the bottom of the "Investor" shoe and deposited in Snippiness.
===>ANY MORE SUCH POSTS and that litterbug will take a several-day vacation. No further warning.<===
===>ANY MORE SUCH POSTS and that litterbug will take a several-day vacation. No further warning.<===
Shipping update. Things continue to move right along.
Source: Tesla Carriers spreadsheet maintained by Franco Mossotto.
Source: Tesla Carriers spreadsheet maintained by Franco Mossotto.
Hadn't removed you from my Christmas card list, so I guess you're good.A mod chickening out, now that’s a story. I saw some people have been referring to my decision to liquidate my whole TSLA position after the SP came crashing down from 960. Why that happened? Lately I had been too much focussed on the effect of the stock movements on the financial value of my portfolio, which at the top was up 720k, and a few trading hours later was up 520k. After having ridden the SP down from 300 to 178 in the spring of 2019 I thought I had balls of steel. But my stomach was the problem. It churned. So I bailed.
At first that felt good, the uncertainty was gone. But that didn’t last long. In fact, just a few hours.
I am a true believer in a bright future for Tesla. It will be the #1 technology brand in the world. And likely the most valuable company in the world. I believe the stock value will go up at least 10x and maybe even 20x. But in the heat of the moment I lost sight of all of that.
It felt as if I had betrayed Elon, who several times went through hell to save Tesla. And as if I had betrayed all the steadfast longs here, a lot of whom I’ve started to appreciate over the last years. I visited this thread yesterday, but felt like an outsider. I saw you guys complain and cheer, but couldn’t join you.
I started to watch some videos. Cathy Wood. Ron Baron. David Lee. The ones by David were especially helpful. I started to realize that I had to focus less on the swings and look more at the long trend and focus on the long term goal I’ve set for myself. And if it drops 100-200 points, that doesn’t make much difference because we know it will be 10-bagger or 20-bagger. I got my confidence back. Huge shout out to @DaveT.
So today I decided to get back in. All in. No timing, because in the end it doesn’t really matter if you get in at 735 or 765. Or even 550, 650 or 850. I ended up buying at 745, which does lower the base price for my shares by 15 points to 225 (but that’s no reason to do this again!).
It feels incredibly good to be back in! And even if it goes down, maybe even by a lot, I’ll hang in there. With all of you. Because I know what the goal is and I know we will get there. There will be a lot of dips along the way, but that’s okay.
So I hope you guys will take back the lost son...
Moderator Note:
I have altered some threads to excise posters' revelation of number of shares owned. Anyone who reads this and decides to ignore this admonition is welcome to...at your peril...forge ahead and reveal same but do you really, truly care to do that in a forum open for the whole world to read?
On edit: in past months have been very inconsistent in performing such excision. Call me patronizing (same root as in PATRICIAN Lord Vetinari, donchaknow?), but when a poster writes "Bought two more shares" or some such I've not been so steadfast.
I have altered some threads to excise posters' revelation of number of shares owned. Anyone who reads this and decides to ignore this admonition is welcome to...at your peril...forge ahead and reveal same but do you really, truly care to do that in a forum open for the whole world to read?
On edit: in past months have been very inconsistent in performing such excision. Call me patronizing (same root as in PATRICIAN Lord Vetinari, donchaknow?), but when a poster writes "Bought two more shares" or some such I've not been so steadfast.
The cost of options right now is astronomical on both sides of the trade. On a day like this, I think i might just wait for the premium to come down.
Pezpunk
Active Member
what peril is in store for people who don't care who knows how many shares they own? is it merely moderator-induced peril because it is annoying, or is there some other reason?
@ReflexFunds Can you please post an update on the options market open interest and what the delta hedging needs of a $100 move look like now. It looks like the spring is coiled tighter than this time last week. I hope to see more stability in the future.
When I thought about it recently, I came to the conclusion that its revelation could lead to an increase in the number of investors?!
I would say that your overall physical/mental health is even more important than financial health (although of course there is some correlation between these). It's very easy to get caught up in the moment during these violent swings of the stock price (I know, I've done it myself), but in the longer term (5 to 10 years out) these price fluctuations will seem like tiny perturbations from the exponential trajectory of TSLA. Whenever I get stressed about the SP, I just keep reminding myself of this and it helps.
Because of volatility? How long does it take for this weeks volatility to flush out?
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