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Tesla quits Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries 7/3/24 effective June 2024
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It would be very interesting to know that. Although in my experience that’s not how industry bodies work. They don’t (or shouldn’t) take votes or simply reflect the view of the majority.
In my experience, industry bodies operate by consensus. On a given topic, if all the members agree on something, that becomes the public position. But if there is not consensus on any particular matter, or some detail around it, the industry body should stay silent on that particular matter or detail.
So it would be fascinating to know what happened behind closed doors at the FCAI meetings…
Well that is very interesting. Arguably, this is important public data that is needed for a whole variety of public policy and planning purposes. And all the States and Territories operate Motor Registries where such data is already in public hands in varying degrees of granularity, timeliness, and public accessibility (NSW wins hands-down in that regard).
So it should be a relatively small step for it to become nationally available, free of charge. OK, new vehicle registrations are not identically equal to sales, but it’s a damn close proxy.
Else, the Government could compel all car manufacturers to provide the data to them monthly as a condition of them holding a vehicle importers or traders licence.
I'd actually argue that registration data is a better metric than the manufacturers who count delivery to a dealership as a sale.
Some hints that VW might be next to walk
"VW said it was concerned about the exit of both companies and was discussing the situation, the spokesperson said, without giving specifics."
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"VW said it was concerned about the exit of both companies and was discussing the situation, the spokesperson said, without giving specifics."
"It is concerning:" Volkswagen may quit car lobby after Tesla and Polestar pull plug
VW says it is reviewing car lobby membership after EV specialists Tesla and Polestar quit over its stance against vehicle emission standards.
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Chuq
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New Zealand does it this way, and one benefit is that grey-import vehicles are also included. It can make quite a difference with certain models, e.g.
Example:
Or just playing whatever game that suits them at the time...
NZ has a long-standing culture of high levels of grey-import vehicles that we don't have here, so that makes sense.
RichardV
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Some hints that VW might be next to walk
"VW said it was concerned about the exit of both companies and was discussing the situation, the spokesperson said, without giving specifics."
"It is concerning:" Volkswagen may quit car lobby after Tesla and Polestar pull plug
VW says it is reviewing car lobby membership after EV specialists Tesla and Polestar quit over its stance against vehicle emission standards.
Volkswagen quits car lobby group's policy committee after Tesla, Polestar exits
Volkswagen has quit its role informing policy for Australia's peak automotive lobby in the latest protest against the group's stance on vehicle emission rules.
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They haven't quite quit but have walk away from the policy committee.
Apparently its too Toyota dominated. And unfortunately for them, they haven't been able to get their EV strategy together. In fact none of the Japanese players have been able to mass produce one so far. Their Hydrogen strategy has failed as well, hybrids are the only things which are selling but it's a 18 months - 2 years wait currently! 
Unless the Japanese government steps in to help them financially to re-tool their business, it will be extremely difficult for Toyota to dig themselves out of this hole. And then it's not just them - there will be others wanting the same handout - Nissan, Suzuki, Honda, Mazda... It's Kodak / Nokia all over again IMHO... funnily enough, the #1, #2, #3 voted cars of the year in Japan are all Chinese made EVs...
Unless the Japanese government steps in to help them financially to re-tool their business, it will be extremely difficult for Toyota to dig themselves out of this hole. And then it's not just them - there will be others wanting the same handout - Nissan, Suzuki, Honda, Mazda... It's Kodak / Nokia all over again IMHO... funnily enough, the #1, #2, #3 voted cars of the year in Japan are all Chinese made EVs
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