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I’m a couple minutes from this Target and unfortunately I can see myself doing this a lot as well. I personally have only gone to a Supercharger once (Qualcomm the very next morning after taking delivery of my 3), but it would be tempting if there was one down the street.
I think my rule of thumb will be: if there are multiple open spots then I’ll plug in when I go to Target since I don’t spend more than 30 min at Target anyway.
I forgot that Model S and Model X owners get 400 kWh of free supercharging per year. (Unlimited for some still, right?) With the large number of S and X owners here and the nearest Supercharger at Qualcomm, it's even more reason this location is going to be busy with locals. If the Supercharger rate is inline with the average SDG&E rates of around $0.25/kWh, it's basically $100 of free charging per year for those owners who probably weren't taking advantage of it before. For people who regularly get into the higher tiers of electricity usage, it'll be cheaper and faster than charging at home. All with the convenience of plugging in while shopping at a store nearly everyone goes to at least a few times per month. It's no-brainer.
To be fair, I think people were already concerned with the Carlsbad one being infested with locals since it isn't 1 minute off the freeway. I can't say that I've been monitoring that location all the time in car but I can't imagine anything being worse than QC anyway and the couple times I went to Carlsbad there were plenty of spaces. Will there be mostly locals here? More so than usual of course since it's not adjacent to a immediate freeway but I don't think it'll be that ultra crowded. Would it get some pressure off of QC? Possible but this is on the 15 route instead of the 5 so it's hard to say.
In reality, it's all guessing anyway.
Also I see a couple posts mentioning it being 12 stalls, the permit was changed awhile back to be 15.
Anyone with an EV can get onto SDG&Es TOU-5 rate. $0.09 per kWh after midnight. You’d be stupid to hang around a $0.25 kWh supercharger if you could charge at home.
Anyone with an EV can get onto SDG&Es TOU-5 rate. $0.09 per kWh after midnight. You’d be stupid to hang around a $0.25 kWh supercharger if you could charge at home.
10 containers?! I didn't actually count them yesterday, but looking at my photos I see the one previously reported inside the fence on the west side, plus three apparently new ones outside the fence on the east side (nearest the Target).
While I agree this makes the most sense, the concrete curb along the north side was dug up. It's the part right at the foot of the fence in your first two pictures, so you wouldn't be able to see it. I've circled the area in one of Edlin303's photos. No idea why they would do that if they are not putting chargers there.Construction is well underway! Based on my observation, it looks like it will be one long row of 15 back-in style urban chargers.
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I agree, I don't see any real reason to have trenched across 2 different sections and torn up curbs if they won't be putting some stalls there. The trench towards the road is almost certainly for the HV, but the one going towards starbucks makes no sense if they don't plan to put something over there.While I agree this makes the most sense, the concrete curb along the north side was dug up. It's the part right at the foot of the fence in your first two pictures, so you wouldn't be able to see it. I've circled the area in one of Edlin303's photos. No idea why they would do that if they are not putting chargers there.
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The pictures may not do it justice, this is on the side of Target. In all my times shopping here I have never been tempted to park over there. There are always spots in front that are closer. So while they have a lot blocked off, I doubt Target is getting many complaints other than from the employees who like being on camera when parking there so long.This is one serious project. Blocking off a Target parking lot to this extent is huge!
Yes, the last two San Diego area ones have been urban (downtown and Carlsbad). I suspect this one will be too. Honestly, we are talking like about 5-10 minutes charging time difference either way here since it ramps pretty quickly down from 120 kw,
Yes, the last two San Diego area ones have been urban (downtown and Carlsbad). I suspect this one will be too. Honestly, we are talking like about 5-10 minutes charging time difference either way here since it ramps pretty quickly down from 120 kw,
Throwing a wrench in -- is this really the Carmel Mountain Supercharger? If you look on the tesla findus page it lists Carmel Mountain as 'Target opening in 2019'. The no permit, no construction, no news Escondido supercharger on the findus map says 'Target opening in 2018'. Could this 4S Ranch one really be the Escondido one and Carmel Mountain is yet to come?
I think we can all agree the physical location of this supercharger station is neither Carmel Mountain or Escondido, but these are the only two on the 'coming soon' tesla map that are remotely close to this with admittedly Carmel Mountain being the closest 'future location'. I guess we could throw in 'Del Mar' which is also listed as 'Target opening in 2018' as a possibility too.