Supercharger - Erie, PA

[jrreno]

Notice I said ease the travel as opposed to make the trip possible. The difference Erie will make in warm weather ( the trip is very questionable in cold weather with only supercharging ) is the difference between range charging in Clarence or just topping up to 150 rated miles. Thats the difference between 10-15 minutes and a solid hour. Charging the upper half of the battery takes a lot longer.

 

[jrreno]

I did a max charge in Buffalo and ended up with 6% charge left in Macedonia on Feb. 1 this year.

How cold? Below Zero C? How fast did you drive? I have tried similar trips at - 2 C (28F) and been forced to L2 charge to make it even driving 55. Snow and wind can also be contributing negative factors.

 

[xrayangiodoc]

Last week I charged up to 250 miles and got to Macedonia with 17 miles left BUT I had to contend with warnings not to go faster than 65 mph to reach my destination and I felt the need to resort to drafting. It would certainly be preferable to be able to get a quick boost in Erie so I could drive in a more normal manner.

 

[mrElbe]

How cold? Below Zero C? How fast did you drive? I have tried similar trips at - 2 C (28F) and been forced to L2 charge to make it even driving 55. Snow and wind can also be contributing negative factors.

It was -2C to start and then +5C at Macedonia. Moderate head wind and dry road. Put car into Autopilot on I90 at speed limit - 65 mph. After the first few miles, I got warnings that I should reduce speed to 90kmh but then after a while it recalculated and predicted 6% battery at destination.

Same experience going from Clarence to Cranberry north of Pittsburgh last November. Distance 330km and I had head wind and rain and Temp at +2C. Again lots of warnings and then ended up with 10% battery left at destination.

Both trips were made with Range Mode on and heater set at 20 degrees C. Don't know if that helped any.

Conclusion: A Supercharger at Erie would have been quite useful despite me making it to both destinations.

 

[jrreno]

xray and mrElbe, thank you sharing your experiences. I'll also be traveling Rochester to Pittsburgh this spring so that information is useful as well.

 

[InTheShadows]

The rolling hills of the Appalachian mountains, though not like the Rockies can really take a toll on range. Those that are not familiar with the terrain can really get caught off guard.

 

[xrayangiodoc]

The trip graph is a fairly useful tool for monitoring battery usage and projected charge level at the end of the trip. If you see the end of trip level continue to drop below the original projected level then that is an indication that you may need to slow down to reach your destination.

 

[neroden]

WE FOUND IT! It's right off the Peach Street exit at the Hilton Garden Inn, scheduled to open in the Spring.

H/T to JakeP for his help!

Here are all the details: TESLA Pittsburgh.com: Erie Supercharger FOUND!
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Yesssss! Thank you Tesla, and thank you to the people who figured this out!
Erie is the "gateway to the west" for us in upstate NY, as it was once before long ago. (In the 19th century, Erie was the station where you got off the railroad from upstate NY and got on the railroad from Chicago, before they started running trains all the way through. This is why Erie's railroad station is physically massive compared to the size of the town.)

Next priority as far as I am concerned: Syracuse service center. Then I can actually start recommending that people buy Teslas again.

 

[JohnQ]

Am I missing something?

Buffalo -> Macedonia 203 miles
Macedonia -> Grove City 140 miles

Erie shouldn't be needed except in the winter.

2013 S85 now range charges to 245. Rain or wind would make that trip interesting.

 

[xrayangiodoc]

Yesssss! Thank you Tesla, and thank you to the people who figured this out!
Erie is the "gateway to the west" for us in upstate NY, as it was once before long ago. (In the 19th century, Erie was the station where you got off the railroad from upstate NY and got on the railroad from Chicago, before they started running trains all the way through. This is why Erie's railroad station is physically massive compared to the size of the town.)

Next priority as far as I am concerned: Syracuse service center. Then I can actually start recommending that people buy Teslas again.

Great! That would make the SC about 106 miles from my home. No more drafting or worrying about my speed!

 

[neroden]

Maybe we should set up some sort of letter to Tesla requesting a Syracuse service center ASAP and have as many people as care sign it. I really think this is the main thing discouraging people from buying Teslas up here...

 

[jrreno]

I apologize upfront for bumping this thread as I know others are watching for some real information about ANY activity at the Erie site.
That said does anyone know if there is some way to get information about planning, zoning or town board meetings that might be processing the Peach Street site?

 

[RVC]

Curious about any new info for this site as well.

 

[Newscutter]

Word is that construction crew is waiting for parts from another vendor-- perhaps the cabinets are backordered?-- but that construction will begin soon. There is an online site to look for permits (assuming March has been posted) but I haven't had a chance to look yet.

 

[jrreno]

Care to share the online site? What jurisdiction is the site under?

 

[Newscutter]

Sure-- permits *should* appear here. No idea how timely they are updated, but appears to be shortly after the end of the month:

Issued Permits

 

[jrreno]

Thanks for the pointer!

 

[late_apex]

I think we're ready for a thread devoted to Erie.

It's on Tesla's radar (whew!) and now we await some building permits.

This might be too late in the game, but I thought I'd throw this out as a proposed location. JakeP and I found it a long time ago but I don't we ever posted or shared it (other than with Tesla... I think... I can't remember). I was driving through the area twice IN MY GAS CAR this past week and did some one sight scouting.

The location is right off Peach St and close to I-90. An isolated and seemingly random scrap of parking lot (should discourage ICEing) that both highly visible (in a Y in the road) and also close to everything. Really about any kind of food you could want is in walking distance, plus shopping like HHGregg, Petsmart, Home Depot and Walmart. There is plenty of surrounding lawn for the Supercharger cabinets, dog walk, and maybe a picnic table or two-- should it ever be desired.

Here's a spin-video (should be online soon, uploading now):

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I envision the Superchargers located on the longer side with the short side being used for pulling your nose in so that reversing into the charger slots would be more or less a straight shot back.

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High profile location for those gleaming new cabinets.

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My trusty GAS steed.... since we couldn't take our Intergalactic Spaceship of Wonder and Light to the good people of the Finger Lakes.

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This station will be my gateway to Toronto! Permit filed since late January...I wonder why it is taking so long to get into construction? Maybe the 200k model 3 deposits will free up some cash for this station to be built!

 

[Andyw2100]

This station will be my gateway to Toronto! Permit filed since late January...I wonder why it is taking so long to get into construction? Maybe the 200k model 3 deposits will free up some cash for this station to be built!

200K is so last week!

From Elektrek:
"Musk confirmed that Tesla had over 276,000 Model 3 reservations by the end of Saturday. The CEO said that he will update the number one more time on Wednesday."

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Sure-- permits *should* appear here. No idea how timely they are updated, but appears to be shortly after the end of the month:

Issued Permits

I'd seen that, but somebody pointed out that that's downtown Erie, and the location will actually be in Summit Township.