Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2015

[CALGARYARSENAL]

Where are Adam Jonas and Morgan Stanley when you need them?

 

[Lump]

Where is Adam Jonas and Morgan Stanley when you need them?

He is in Maui spending his bonus check for his perfectly executed pump & dump once again, I will be called upon to do the same sometime in the spring.

 

[AudubonB]

Mild Mannered Moderator climbing aboard here:
I'm not going to take anyone out to the woodshed, but - quite possibly due to market action - there is more than enough ill-will being spread around...especially to new members...over the last several dozen posts that I'm going to suggest each of you responsible to slow it down a bit.

Each of you.

 

[ibcs]

Mild Mannered Moderator climbing aboard here:
I'm not going to take anyone out to the woodshed, but - quite possibly due to market action - there is more than enough ill-will being spread around...especially to new members...over the last several dozen posts that I'm going to suggest each of you responsible to slow it down a bit.

Each of you.

Agreed - Market controls moods unfortunately. Looks like we got a nice bounce off 244. Hopefully, we can regain $250 by the afternoon.

 

[Bobbyducati]

moved out of my oct $250 puts for a very good gain (didnt think id be selling this quickly!), hoping we hold above 244 and make my decision to sell a good one.

 

[RobStark]

A recent (June?) research note from Jefferies seems to confirm this hypothesis. They asked ~150 Tesla owners what cars they replaced / what they would've bought if they didn't get the Model S, and the answers were a surprisingly wide range of vehicles in various price bands. The biggest surprise to me was that 70% of the people surveyed had cars with ASPs below $60K prior to their Model S.

The average age of the Model S owner is also ~15 years younger than the typical F segment buyer.

So, typically in this age group is where the big income jump happens.

Successful people in their mid forties are typically replacing a C or D segment car with an F segment car, Silicon Valley 20 something billionaires excluded of course.

As opposed to typical S-Class buyers in their 60's or 70's replacing one F segment car with another.

The relevant question is what car they would have bought not what they are replacing. That depends on honest answers about a supposition, what would have happened, as opposed to telling the truth about a historical fact.

 

[vankie]

Thanks for replying to my first TMC post! Fair point on "upgrade buy" vs. replacement, especially given initial sales was heavily concentrated in the Silicon Valley where young millionaires are created daily.

The average age of the Model S owner is also ~15 years younger than the typical F segment buyer.

So, typically in this age group is where the big income jump happens.

Successful people in their mid forties are typically replacing a C or D segment car with an F segment car, Silicon Valley 20 something billionaires excluded of course.

As opposed to typical S-Class buyers in their 60's or 70's replacing one F segment car with another.

The relevant question is what car they would have bought not what they are replacing. That depends on honest answers about a supposition, what would have happened, as opposed to telling the truth about a historical fact.

 

[abasile]

I've been appreciating some of the great discussion in this thread. This helped me to feel comfortable picking up a few more shares at $245 this morning. Thanks!

 

[doggusfluffy]

Tesla Stations at Airbnb Locations

Not much of an accompanying article:

Airbnb and Tesla Motors are starting a partnership to bring Tesla car charging stations to 30 Airbnb properties along the West Coast in cities such as Los Angeles, Palm Springs and Healdsburg, Calif. Tesla has donated and installed the stations that are meant to give travelers freedom on their road trips, according to Chip Conley, head of global hospitality and strategy at Airbnb. “When considering accommodations, Tesla drivers are limited by how far they can get on their car’s battery charge, but this partnership alleviates that constraint,” he said.

The stations are the initial phase of a collaboration to add more properties with charging stations in other destinations.

 

[MartinAustin]

I bought at $251 this morning and thought I had done well !!! Gulp... luckily I didn't use all of my funds.. I was able to use the rest at $245 and I'm fully back onto the TSLA theme park ride.

 

[BoerumHill]

I bought at $251 this morning and thought I had done well !!! Gulp... luckily I didn't use all of my funds.. I was able to use the rest at $245 and I'm fully back onto the TSLA theme park ride.

ETA: thinking of starting a thread - "Does TSLA make you a more aggressive Investor?"

 

[sunhelm]

Wild ride indeed. Prepare for hopefully another upward swing. Version 7 of the firmware is coming up and looks like a leak from one of the beta testers has been posted. The official release might just coincide with the Model X design studio.

http://www.teslarati.com/first-image-from-tesla-firmware-7-0-emerges/

 

[SteveG3]

preliminary Consumer Reports testing highlights of P85D out today, full report out on 8/27.

Tesla Model S P85D Test Results - Consumer Reports

 

[Renaud]

preliminary Consumer Reports testing highlights of P85D out today, full report out on 8/27.

Tesla Model S P85D Test Results - Consumer Reports

In days like today, I just feel like nothing can lift TSLA again...
Maybe this report will help?

And any positive MX news...

In the mean time, we just follow Nasdaq. So depressing...

 

[dha]

Wow, we seem to have bottomed out precisely at the secondary offering price of $242. Let's see if that support holds.

 

[Johan]

Wow, we seem to have bottomed out precisely at the secondary offering price of $242. Let's see if that support holds.

That's no big surprise. The underwriters should be support buying at this level.

 

[dha]

That's no big surprise. The underwriters should be support buying at this level.

How does this work exactly, now that the offering has closed. Are the underwriters buying for their own funds?

 

[Noble Ninja]

Wow, we seem to have bottomed out precisely at the secondary offering price of $242. Let's see if that support holds.

That's no big surprise. The underwriters should be support buying at this level.

Yeah, so it seems like the underwriters already sold off today. However, the overall market is being beaten up today as well.

http://www.bidnessetc.com/50674-tesla-motors-inc-tsla-heres-why-the-stock-is-down-today/

 

[Johan]

How does this work exactly, now that the offering has closed. Are the underwriters buying for their own funds?

I believe so. They have access to loads and loads of cheap liquidity. They will be overweight TSLA if they're forced to buy and buy to keep price at or above the offering price. But that's OK, they will unload gradually when TSLA goes up again. Or if disaster strikes they'll do another pump and dump. It would look very bad to their big clients who bought the offering if they could have bought TSLA cheaper a few days later on the open market.

Yup Ninja: pump n dump. The sold at say average of $250 now buying it back in the low $240's. Lots of weak long stops taken down along the way. That's how you make money if you're already rich.

 

[highend]

Wow, we seem to have bottomed out precisely at the secondary offering price of $242. Let's see if that support holds.

well.... $244 broken, now resistance. Enough said.