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Those who are disappointed by the AH price action: I'm curious to know what you think the market was expecting to see today vs what we actually saw.

Substantial, iterative improvements on battery cost, efficiency and performance was my "base case" for what the market was expecting from Battery Day. That's what I saw in this presentation. Which is great! But don't see anything that should have surprised to the upside.

Wow I admire your Cojones. You may get completely wiped out if we have another big macro selloff between now and then.

Really crazy action on 7/2 puts today. Somebody has bought about a million dollars worth of contracts, strikes $500 - $700, largest position $660 strike (about $700,000 worth). Additionally, volume on $200 puts is 11,525 contracts which dwarfs the previous open interest of 20.

Well, I presume that's because there are no delivery centers within 100 miles of that town. It would be a useful exercise to find the zip codes of all the delivery centers, query each one for availability and use that to gauge inventory over time. And to see how that tracks with reported...

If this were the case one would expect to see pretty low inventory, no? I just did a search and found 24 new S, 50 new 3 and 26 new X within 25 miles of my zip code. Is this considered low? I remember looking some previous quarters where there was literally zero inventory available.

But the quarter ends in less than a week. Is it normal to go from order to delivery in 6 days?

What do you base this on?

Tesla furloughs hit half of U.S. sales and delivery employees

Not sure what you're looking at but I absolutely did: Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the 2019-2020 Investors' Roundtable

That is exactly my point. My comments were in response to another commenter suggesting that the lack of guidance update is bullish. I come in and say that "hey, that's not necessarily bullish" and everyone gets their panties in a bunch.

LOL it would be kind of silly to reaffirm guidance on a Q4 report no? Seeing as how the actual numbers for the year are known and everything. See my earlier post about the Q1 2019 letter. The whole context of this conversation is another commenter suggesting that the lack of update on guidance...

Verbatim from the Q1 2019 delivery report:

Yes, that’s kind of exactly my point.

Not trying to be a dick here but need to chime in. Tesla has historically used the delivery reports to reaffirm guidance. That they did not address guidance at all in yesterday’s letter is not necessarily bullish.

This is far from panic.

This is incorrect. The Fed does not currently have the authority to buy equities or index funds without congressional authorization. Recent comments by J Powell suggest the Fed is not currently seeking such authorization, but things may change rapidly.

Statewide stay-at-home order issued for California

About as long as the fed rate cut last week.

Biggest single-day S&P % drop since September 2008.

Paper losses are still losses. Holding shares indefinitely without regard to what is happening in the world is a valid strategy. Probably the optimal one for mental health. But it begs the question of why such an investor would spend time on an active trader forum.

I have no doubt that TSLA will survive and thrive in the long term. But my impression was that the point of this forum is to discuss the many factors that might influence TSLA share price in the short, medium and long term. And to use those insights to make money. The macro situation is a...

Money will indeed be destroyed. Many companies operate with slim margins and too much debt to withstand more than a quarter of sharply and unexpectedly reduced demand. They may default. Many people may lose their jobs. That scenario is no less likely as a swift and full recovery over the...

Exactly this. Price wars with the potential to destabilize major economies are not bullish. Things could get much, much uglier from here on out folks. The yield on the 10-year T Note just dipped below 0.5% which is absolutely unprecedented and indicates a titanic flight to safety. The fed...

Futures down sharply: Real-Time Stock Indices Futures

I need to point out that this is not totally accurate. Maybe you know this, but shorting is still allowed, but only on upticks (hence "uptick rule") In other words, you can only short TSLA if the previous trade was at least a penny higher than the trade before that.

Uhhhhh guys...I hate to be a party pooper but I have it on good authority that Tesla will fall miserably short of this target: https://seekingalpha.com/article/2501685-why-projections-for-tesla-to-sell-500000-cars-in-2020-are-absurd

He was not 6% off, he was more than 600% off. He estimated a delta of 190k shares while the actual number was 1.3mm shares. Any idiot could look at the official short interest tables and figure out that SI will be within a few % of whatever it was during the last reporting period. The...

Latest official short interest figures for TSLA have been released: Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Short Interest 24,954,265 shares were held short as of 1/15 settlement. This reflects a change of -1,304,887 shares since the last reporting period. Once again, Ihor Dusaniwsky's figures were...

Selling a spread is one way to reduce your exposure while hanging on to your options. Especially with IV this crazy high.

Uhhhh....sorry guys.

Wow what a boring day for TSLA. I might actually get some work done.

Curt in this case the entire market dipped sharply, not just TSLA. I don't believe TSLA is big enough (yet) to spook the entire market on a downward move :-)

Bloomberg on Twitter

That tweet is dated 1/9. It's plausible that he is correct as the official figures would only reflect trading in the last week of December.

And these folks want to lecture Elon about burning cash!

Latest short interest just posted: 26,259,152 shares were held short as of 12/31 settlement: Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Short Interest This settlement date reflects the initial run to $420 - $430 Short interest declined by 1,237,602 shares since the last reporting period. While the...

I do not believe the U.S. shot down this aircraft. But it is unfortunately quite far from "the last thing" we would do: Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia

Similarly, shorts who recently trimmed their positions (looking at you, Mark Spiegel) may find they will need to soon trim them again.

I was curious so I dove deep into the archives to see if I could find the record of my first TSLA trades. The first call purchases that I could find were these: 5 Contracts 6/22/2013 expiration, $40 strike. Purchased 4/8/2013 for $3.30 / share. 5 Contracts January '14 $40 LEAPS purchased...

While this run has been great, 2013 was something else because options were just stupidly cheap. It took market makers a while to properly price in the volatility as TSLA had been range bound for so long. Buying calls felt like printing money. You really need to pay for options now.

That was an....interesting touch hahah.

Earnings and dividends are not the same thing. E.g. It is possible for TSLA to simultaneously be highly profitable while shoveling every last dollar of cash into ambitious CapEx.

The shorts are a pleasure to burn.

Yeah it's nonsense fear mongering. And we will soon have concrete sustained earnings that substantiate current valuations. Consensus EPS for TSLA in 2020 is $5.57. I personally think they will achieve $8-$10 but just going with $5.57... That gives them a PE of 80 based on current share price...

Oil futures spiked significantly on news of conflict escalation with Iran. Times like these should highlight the advantages of driving a car whose fuel source is shielded from geopolitics, extreme price volatility and potential supply disruptions.

Latest short figures just released; 27,496,754 shares were held short as of 12/13 settlement: Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Short Interest Once again, Ihor's numbers were significantly off the mark. On 12/11, he said short interested stood at 26.46 million shares: Ihor Dusaniwsky on Twitter...

TSLA up 2.2% in Frankfurt TESLA INC. DL -,001 (TL0.F) Stock Price, Quote, History & News

Based on his Twitter feed it looks like Chanos' latest short obsession is PTON: Diogenes (@WallStCynic) | Twitter Just in case you thought TSLA was a crowded short...PTON has a whopping 94% of float sold short. The intraday volatility has been nuts.

Doug DeMuro posted an overall quite positive review of Model 3 Performance on his channel today: He gave it a higher "Doug Score" than any of the comparable luxury performance sedans or EVs he's reviewed. Quite a nice endorsement for his 3.18 million subscribers!