Good Evening All,
BLUF: what to look for before buying - specifically the HV battery.
All values are CAD/kilometres, live in Ontario.
Currently drive a base 2017 Bolt 230k odometer, 25k on battery capacity estimated at 61kwh. Our only car, family of 5 with 3 small kids. Possibly one or 2 more in the next 5 years. Prior to this had 2018 leaf, which we traded in. Currently, (Leaf purchase, upgrade to bolt, gas savings) cashflow is at - $7k, with a sale of the bolt on top of that.
Possibility of selling bolt for ~17k to interested buyer.
I have found a 2015 S85D with AP1 for $20k (subject to negotiation) , 203k kilometers. November 2015 manufacture. Carfax looks good, one owner. In 2018 had $5800 worth of work done for "minor to moderate damage, Damage to rear, Damage to right rear"
Context, only 4 cheaper used model S's are avalible in Canada, one with a serverly degraded battery, one needs new RDU, final two are 2014s RWD one with AP one without.
Points/thoughts
1- 2015 - seems that opinion is 15 - 16 were a better / reasonably good quality.
2- AP1 - I gather for what it is meant to do (highway /rural roads) does a great job. Also summon and parallel park. Should also reduce chance of getting into at fault accidents.
3- SDUx2- from what I have looked at vast majority of drive unit failures have been with LDU, have only found a few instances of SDUs failing.
4 - Coil Springs - cheaper in maintenance vs air.
5-Xenon headlights - seems more reliable than newer LED.
6- Pano Roof- not having a sunroof would be more reliable of course. Based on manufacturing date, this would be the updated pano roof, how are they with leaking /DIY fixing?
7 - 19in wheels - better mpg, less risk for flats.
8 - I believe no unlimited supercharging. Can I assume if I take it to a supercharger I will be able to verify? Any way to verify in the drivers seat? While I would really like this, I charge for $0.04 at home and would need to fast charge less going from 61 kwh to high 70s kWh total battery capacity.
9 - No cold weather package
10- No premium package
11 - Leather seats.
12- Rear jumpseats, not included. Will find a set and add them after. Does Elons advice with regards to AC settings work? Not as concerned about heating (blankets etc). Right now looking at around $1500.
12 - Further depreciation: according to autotrader.ca would be buying the model s for just above wholesale, while selling Bolt EV for almost retail value. Tesla should be worth more down the road?
13 - MCU 1. If I find a used MCU2, and I swap then myself, it that it? Or does something special need to be done?
14 - To me that leaves only the HV battery as the unknown.
A) I know that I can see the battery tag through the passenger side wheel well.
B) I am also aware that through the service menu, I should be able to see both internal and external isolation.
C) I have read that there are possible issues with water intrusion, anything to look out for, with the above isolation test help with that.
D) I will have Scan My Tesla with the proper adapter, bought both.
E) Can I leverage this to get a feel for the battery pack health? I know I can get a kWh capacity for the pack. I heard CAC can be helpful, what am I looking for in tems of values?
F) Can I tell (if so how) if the battery has ever been replaced?
Looking to perform a test drive this week. Of course will make sure all door handles sunroof works as well. If it checks out will also have independent pre purchase car inspection done.
Am I missing something? It seems like going with small motors, less fancy options (besides the pano roof), leaves only the HV battery. As I go over in the above, can I get enough insight on it before purchase?
Thoughts?
Thanks!
BLUF: what to look for before buying - specifically the HV battery.
All values are CAD/kilometres, live in Ontario.
Currently drive a base 2017 Bolt 230k odometer, 25k on battery capacity estimated at 61kwh. Our only car, family of 5 with 3 small kids. Possibly one or 2 more in the next 5 years. Prior to this had 2018 leaf, which we traded in. Currently, (Leaf purchase, upgrade to bolt, gas savings) cashflow is at - $7k, with a sale of the bolt on top of that.
Possibility of selling bolt for ~17k to interested buyer.
I have found a 2015 S85D with AP1 for $20k (subject to negotiation) , 203k kilometers. November 2015 manufacture. Carfax looks good, one owner. In 2018 had $5800 worth of work done for "minor to moderate damage, Damage to rear, Damage to right rear"
Context, only 4 cheaper used model S's are avalible in Canada, one with a serverly degraded battery, one needs new RDU, final two are 2014s RWD one with AP one without.
Points/thoughts
1- 2015 - seems that opinion is 15 - 16 were a better / reasonably good quality.
2- AP1 - I gather for what it is meant to do (highway /rural roads) does a great job. Also summon and parallel park. Should also reduce chance of getting into at fault accidents.
3- SDUx2- from what I have looked at vast majority of drive unit failures have been with LDU, have only found a few instances of SDUs failing.
4 - Coil Springs - cheaper in maintenance vs air.
5-Xenon headlights - seems more reliable than newer LED.
6- Pano Roof- not having a sunroof would be more reliable of course. Based on manufacturing date, this would be the updated pano roof, how are they with leaking /DIY fixing?
7 - 19in wheels - better mpg, less risk for flats.
8 - I believe no unlimited supercharging. Can I assume if I take it to a supercharger I will be able to verify? Any way to verify in the drivers seat? While I would really like this, I charge for $0.04 at home and would need to fast charge less going from 61 kwh to high 70s kWh total battery capacity.
9 - No cold weather package
10- No premium package
11 - Leather seats.
12- Rear jumpseats, not included. Will find a set and add them after. Does Elons advice with regards to AC settings work? Not as concerned about heating (blankets etc). Right now looking at around $1500.
12 - Further depreciation: according to autotrader.ca would be buying the model s for just above wholesale, while selling Bolt EV for almost retail value. Tesla should be worth more down the road?
13 - MCU 1. If I find a used MCU2, and I swap then myself, it that it? Or does something special need to be done?
14 - To me that leaves only the HV battery as the unknown.
A) I know that I can see the battery tag through the passenger side wheel well.
B) I am also aware that through the service menu, I should be able to see both internal and external isolation.
C) I have read that there are possible issues with water intrusion, anything to look out for, with the above isolation test help with that.
D) I will have Scan My Tesla with the proper adapter, bought both.
E) Can I leverage this to get a feel for the battery pack health? I know I can get a kWh capacity for the pack. I heard CAC can be helpful, what am I looking for in tems of values?
F) Can I tell (if so how) if the battery has ever been replaced?
Looking to perform a test drive this week. Of course will make sure all door handles sunroof works as well. If it checks out will also have independent pre purchase car inspection done.
Am I missing something? It seems like going with small motors, less fancy options (besides the pano roof), leaves only the HV battery. As I go over in the above, can I get enough insight on it before purchase?
Thoughts?
Thanks!