canasion35
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How do these ION’s compare to the PS4S comfort and noise? Love the PS4S but wearing quickly as we put on about 20k miles a year.
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Does it work to just say, "These are too noisy. I don't like them"?Discount tire thankfully rebated me a good amount of money towards the new set of tires because of that warranty
No. It's the mileage warranty. The A/S 4s are rated for 45k miles and you can get a prorated rebate for the mileage difference.Does it work to just say, "These are too noisy. I don't like them"?
Okay, so you replaced them when the treads had worn out, yes?No. It's the mileage warranty. The A/S 4s are rated for 45k miles and you can get a prorated rebate for the mileage difference.
How do these ION’s compare to the PS4S comfort and noise? Love the PS4S but wearing quickly as we put on about 20k miles a year.
I will add that the DWS06+ are a great mix of performance, quiet, range and wear life. Highly recommended.
They are very highly rated by everyone, I couldn't find much data/threads about how they do efficiency/noise wise on an EV, from what I recall they're like -5% vs EV centric tires and not as quiet as foam lined tires but also not the noisiest?The Conti DWS06+ are great tires. I had them for a winter set on the family SUV and did well in the snow.
The 18” Kinergy GT are quieter than Michelin MXM4. I know for I have 2 M3LR. One has Michelin MXM4, the other has has Kinergy GT.Their new Ion tires might be a different thing, people are giving them great reviews so far. The Kinergy GT suck (as seen by reviews on TireRack). Total Tesla cheap-out. But probably the Michelin factories were backlogged with supply issues.
Hankook new iON tire, an "EV" tire (not the same as Kinergy GT)
Looks like Hankook has new "EV" tires, the iON brand ones. https://www.hankooktire.com/us/en/tirelist/vehicle/electric-vehicle.html The iON evo AS comes in the typical Tesla Model 3 tire sizes as 3 of the 6 sizes offered, so the Tesla Model 3 is presumably a target market. These are different...teslamotorsclub.com
There's also a Pirelli "Elect" EV specific variation which should be an option.
Here is my consumption on my first rotation with them. 6,000mi+ in and I can say i'm still happy with them. I drive maybe like 60%~ freeway and 40% city/suburbs, but Houston has been really hot lately which has been inching up my average consumption due to the A/C use. My Michelin's prior to switching were around 257wh/mi. Sept 2021 LR Dual Motor Model 3 w/ 18" wheels and aero covers.They are very highly rated by everyone, I couldn't find much data/threads about how they do efficiency/noise wise on an EV, from what I recall they're like -5% vs EV centric tires and not as quiet as foam lined tires but also not the noisiest?
If I understand this right, you're talking about the DWS06+ using 267Wh/mi vs the PSAS4 @ 257Wh/mi? So more or less the same since conditions have gotten a bit hotter lately?Here is my consumption on my first rotation with them. 6,000mi+ in and I can say i'm still happy with them. I drive maybe like 60%~ freeway and 40% city/suburbs, but Houston has been really hot lately which has been inching up my average consumption due to the A/C use. My Michelin's prior to switching were around 257wh/mi. Sept 2021 LR Dual Motor Model 3 w/ 18" wheels and aero covers.
View attachment 960051I think the only downside i've found coming from the Pilot Sport A/S 4 is that the Continentals don't corner as hard as the Michelins, but that could be why the continentals are a more comfortable ride and less jarring for daily driver use.
Yup when I first put the DWS06+ on I was around 260wh/mi but they were also new.If I understand this right, you're talking about the DWS06+ using 267Wh/mi vs the PSAS4 @ 257Wh/mi? So more or less the same since conditions have gotten a bit hotter lately?
If so that sounds about right, from the one source I found rolling resistance values for those tires, they're damn near identical.
I do wish there's a more efficient tire that grips as hard as those two, but I guess that's just physically impossible.