Model Y Review by a Hater

[Ratch]

From your original post:

Ratch stated:

CUSTOMER SERVICE
Non existant. The flat out ignoring of customers asking for return calls / emails, the random feature yanks and flat out LYING about what the car can / might do in the future is astonishing. How they get away with this is mad. Feels like you're totally alone once they've got your cash, a horrible feeling. Strong brands are built AFTER purchase,

So, they were "...flat out lying about what the car can/might do..." but...but NOW you believe a single tech's opinion about any updates to the MY suspension??

Petulant, indeed.

This makes no sense.

It seems you are incapable of distinguishing between a fact-based experience of general customer service and completely unrelated, RELAYING information here from a service tech, information I neither supported nor discounted, merely shared unvarnished. Or you are conflating the two, which is even worse.

You and others like you need to stop with the tedious points scoring, often misquoting, misguided and incorrect and either add to the thread or move along.

 

[Ratch]

as Kelso says on the 70's show......BUUURRRRRRRN

 

[advocate8]

Tell me you've never been to California without telling me that you've never been to California.

Yes, as a cyclist who does @9000 miles a year in various states and 3-4 countries I can assure you California pavement is pretty bad.
I stuck with Geminis myself, but just dipped the aero covers. I’m not giving up that much range for what doesn’t even seem like an aesthetic improvement... let alone paying extra for 20s to lower my range.

As to ride, for a mid-year 2022? its ok, I dont think about it much until hit some truly heinous stretch. Your review otherwise pretty good, though the center cluster just strikes me as gimmicky, like Elon was just trying to be different and yet claim to be ruthlessly logical.
What is wrong with $75 worth of parts to give us a heads up display?
And interior quality, its OK. Would rather have BMW quality but here we are.
My body panels and paint are perfect though... no qualms there.
Range seems pretty good to me coming off m3P... its all I need. no you are not likely to get 330, but you could do yourself a favor in that regard and put the wheel covers back on for a whopping big gain.

 

[T3SLAROD]

Yes, as a cyclist who does @9000 miles a year in various states and 3-4 countries I can assure you California pavement is pretty bad.
I stuck with Geminis myself, but just dipped the aero covers. I’m not giving up that much range for what doesn’t even seem like an aesthetic improvement... let alone paying extra for 20s to lower my range.

As to ride, for a mid-year 2022? its ok, I dont think about it much until hit some truly heinous stretch. Your review otherwise pretty good, though the center cluster just strikes me as gimmicky, like Elon was just trying to be different and yet claim to be ruthlessly logical.
What is wrong with $75 worth of parts to give us a heads up display?
And interior quality, its OK. Would rather have BMW quality but here we are.
My body panels and paint are perfect though... no qualms there.
Range seems pretty good to me coming off m3P... its all I need. no you are not likely to get 330, but you could do yourself a favor in that regard and put the wheel covers back on for a whopping big gain.

Agreed. Soon as it rains there are potholes everywhere, no to mention the crappy freeways around downtown LA

 

[richyrich]

Seems odd to "review" the drive and not even mention the acceleration and speed of the thing? Been in plenty of BMWs and most don't come close plus all accompany any progress with a lot of hesitation, noise and stink. No thanks.

 

[Kare]

To be fair, the rutted concrete freeways around LA etc aren’t great, maybe I’m being too kind. Most UK roads are shocking.

France and Germany are the gold standard. Crawling with French and Germans tho.

Don’t cancel me!

Best laugh I've had all day!

 

[Ratch]

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Yes, as a cyclist who does @9000 miles a year in various states and 3-4 countries I can assure you California pavement is pretty bad.
I stuck with Geminis myself, but just dipped the aero covers. I’m not giving up that much range for what doesn’t even seem like an aesthetic improvement... let alone paying extra for 20s to lower my range.

As to ride, for a mid-year 2022? its ok, I dont think about it much until hit some truly heinous stretch. Your review otherwise pretty good, though the center cluster just strikes me as gimmicky, like Elon was just trying to be different and yet claim to be ruthlessly logical.
What is wrong with $75 worth of parts to give us a heads up display?
And interior quality, its OK. Would rather have BMW quality but here we are.
My body panels and paint are perfect though... no qualms there.
Range seems pretty good to me coming off m3P... its all I need. no you are not likely to get 330, but you could do yourself a favor in that regard and put the wheel covers back on for a whopping big gain.

Is it really that big a gain? Can you elaborate? From which speed does it really impact and to what extent? Is this assessed independently somewhere?

That aside, the covers are a dealbreaker, make it look like an Prius or generic Far Eastern car.

 

[Ratch]

Seems odd to "review" the drive and not even mention the acceleration and speed of the thing? Been in plenty of BMWs and most don't come close

This is true but not unique to Tesla, which is why I didn’t mention it. Almost every EV enjoys this advantage.

 

[advocate8]

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Is it really that big a gain? Can you elaborate? From which speed does it really impact and to what extent? Is this assessed independently somewhere?

That aside, the covers are a dealbreaker, make it look like an Prius or generic Far Eastern car.

Yes, it's more than 22 miles with the 20s according to one modest test.
More with the P wheels.

The covers, plastic-dip them black, or like I did black and silver. Or buy black ones off the shelf aftermarket. they look fine.

You can argue with the bottom line number from test below but even on Tesla’s order page it shows a significant difference -- 12 miles for 20s, 27 miles for P, so the test is believable.
The difference in ride and likelihood of smashing a tire in a minor pothole (look through the forum on that) are just icing on the cake for the 19s

Tesla Model Y Real-World Range Loss With 20-Inch Wheels

Opting for a Tesla Modle Y with 20-inch factory Induction Wheels over the 19-inch Gemini factory wheels? Here's how much range you should expect to lose.

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[Ratch]

Yes, it's more than 22 miles with the 20s according to one modest test.
More with the P wheels.

The covers, plastic-dip them black, or like I did black and silver. Or buy black ones off the shelf aftermarket. they look fine.

You can argue with the bottom line number from test below but even on Tesla’s order page it shows a significant difference -- 12 miles for 20s, 27 miles for P, so the test is believable.
The difference in ride and likelihood of smashing a tire in a minor pothole (look through the forum on that) are just icing on the cake for the 19s

Tesla Model Y Real-World Range Loss With 20-Inch Wheels

Opting for a Tesla Modle Y with 20-inch factory Induction Wheels over the 19-inch Gemini factory wheels? Here's how much range you should expect to lose.

insideevs.com

Confused. I have the 19’s. I meant the difference between aero cover or no cover on the 19’s?

 

[advocate8]

Confused. I have the 19’s. I meant the difference between aero cover or no cover on the 19’s?

Prob similar. It’s open vs not open.

 

[Palisandr]

Various modern BMW 3s and MPVs etc some with Sport suspension some not. The Tesla takes forever to settle after a bump / pothole which suggests it’s underdamped. And too firmly sprung. Ride quality isn’t just about how harsh it if.

Completely agree. I am coming from Volvos and the ride and seat quality in Tesla is under par. The ride quality on the highway actually reminds me of body-on-frame Toyota 4Runner we briefly owned. It could be just the stiffer design because of the large battery. Can't really compare Tesla to any other EV since I drove none.

 

[GoVols!]

Completely agree. I am coming from Volvos and the ride and seat quality in Tesla is under par. The ride quality on the highway actually reminds me of body-on-frame Toyota 4Runner we briefly owned. It could be just the stiffer design because of the large battery. Can't really compare Tesla to any other EV since I drove none.

I’ll be curious how the upcoming XC90 pure ev does. Looks very promising.

 

[Palisandr]

I’ll be curious how the upcoming XC90 pure ev does. Looks very promising.

Test drive will be in order once it's out for sure. But I am afraid the price tag will be much more than 40k model Y (after incentives).

 

[Pianewman]

Confused. I have the 19’s. I meant the difference between aero cover or no cover on the 19’s?

Wheel Tire Combination To Improve Efficiency

All, Have a 21 MYLR with 32K miles on the odometer. 90% of my driving is highway. Live in East Texas and make multiple trips to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area during the week. Drive on several types of surfaces. The wh/mi is 284 at 32K miles. Currently have the OEM 255 45 R19s Continentals with the...

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[advocate8]

Wheel Tire Combination To Improve Efficiency

All, Have a 21 MYLR with 32K miles on the odometer. 90% of my driving is highway. Live in East Texas and make multiple trips to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area during the week. Drive on several types of surfaces. The wh/mi is 284 at 32K miles. Currently have the OEM 255 45 R19s Continentals with the...

teslamotorsclub.com

4 percent isn’t small. 13-14 miles of range.

 

[Ratch]

4 percent isn’t small. 13-14 miles of range.

95% of my annual driving is in town and below 40mph.

Having said that, I’d have no problem reffiting the covers for long trips but they’ll scratch the newly painted black wheels.

4% is a hit I’ll take for having nice looking wheels. Silly I know but looks matter to me in all things.

 

[GBMaryland]

INFOTAINMENT
Like the driver profile system with phone as key - excellent. Memorising settings as you change things - excellent. The UI and UX is poor however. Really poor. A mess of incoherence and bad design, not at all driver focused / safety focused. If you base your whole driving interaction around that one screen it must be FLAWLESS and it isn’t. Why aren't voice prompts used more? And voice commands are poor for a tech company. Some say it’s because they’re focused on future (LOL) autonomy so the driver isn’t important but it’s poor even in that context. I’ve covered this elsewhere.

At some point Tesla made a clear decision to make it as difficult as possible to logically determine where a setting is in the UI.

With my M3LR in 2019 it was a piece of cake to find a setting. It's a total *sugar* show now. If you are attempting to find a setting quickly, especially settings you don't routinely change, Tesla seems to have determined that they WANT you to crash trying to find it.

(Ideally, they probably don't want you to try to find it at all while to car is moving... but screw that, I paid $85k for a car and I want that functionality. ...or I want Elon to give me $10k back.)

 

[GBMaryland]

4 percent isn’t small. 13-14 miles of range.

I put the 20in F1s on the car and got 30 miles in range. (From the 21s that came with the MPP.) That's a real difference in range... cr-appy tires though...

 

[Daekwan]

95% of my annual driving is in town and below 40mph.

Having said that, I’d have no problem reffiting the covers for long trips but they’ll scratch the newly painted black wheels.

4% is a hit I’ll take for having nice looking wheels. Silly I know but looks matter to me in all things.

Do what Im looking to do.. black aero covers. Truly best of both worlds:

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