Model X Side Mirrors

[Fanatic]

Have you recognized that the Model X subsite have only the side cameras now. Also the reservation site has the cameras. Am I dizzy or have this been changed lately?

 

[fengshui]

The reservation page I see has the mirrors, as it has for some time. I don't see any changes.

 

[Fanatic]

The reservation page I see has the mirrors, as it has for some time. I don't see any changes.

mine show side cameras.

 

[Sosius]

My "MY TESLA" page shows cameras! Interestingly, the photo file name includes Q3 for third quarter, I assume. (I reserved this month.)

 

[fengshui]

Ahh. That page has always shows cameras, and does on mine. I was referring to the Make a Reservation page, which has mirrors:
Buy or Reserve a Tesla | Tesla Motors

I think the Q3 is for three-quarters view, not 3rd quarter of the year. That picture is of the prototype and has been the same image for the last two years, as far as I can remember.

 

[Fanatic]

https://www2.unece.org/wiki/download/attachments/25265404/IGCMS-II-08-05 MAN_CMS.pdf?api=v2
Think this shows the potential for the camera solution. More comprehensive view. Notice the brightness is so much stronger in the display than in the mirror. That would be very helpful in dim conditions.

 

[electracity]

Ahh. That page has always shows cameras, and does on mine. I was referring to the Make a Reservation page, which has mirrors:
Buy or Reserve a Tesla | Tesla Motors

I think the Q3 is for three-quarters view, not 3rd quarter of the year. That picture is of the prototype and has been the same image for the last two years, as far as I can remember.

Good catch. I think most likely the car will have removable mirrors and side cameras, if Tesla believes cameras alone will be legal in the U.S. in a year or so. I wonder about the legality of side cameras alone in other countries?

 

[Gwgan]

Maybe one camera? The passenger mirror is only required if the rearview mirror fails to meet certain view requirements.
OK, not serious. Just board waiting.

Maybe the side cameras will be allowed before 2016. As of June 18, 2015 the NHTSA rule CFR part 571.111 on Rear Visibility was due for "Analysis" in 2014 and is due for "Review" in Fall 2015 with regards to economic impacts . Do they review parts on a per-request schedule also ( they responded to Nissan but on a rule with "ongoing" analysis )?

 

[Zapped]

I'm all for cameras but the other day I leaned forward to change my viewing angle on the side mirror and notice a car that I would otherwise not have seen.

Unfortunately I don't think is possible with a camera system.

 

[JRP3]

A camera system could actually provide a greater viewing angle than a mirror. You could even have 360 degrees with multiple cameras.

 

[NigelM]

A camera system could actually provide a greater viewing angle than a mirror. You could even have 360 degrees with multiple cameras.

Displaying that amount of image would present an interesting challenge. I would like to see some wider angle image shown on the traditional center mirror space; that might possibly involve multiple cameras.

Re:side mirrors.....Without plowing through the detail there does seem to still be too many issues to go with side cameras only (i.e. no side mirrors) but hopefully Tesla will either incorporate both (which is legal already) or at least include cabling for a potential upgrade later.

 

[jtg]

I haven't seen any side camera user reports so here's mine: I spent the last month touring around Wisconsin in our RV and it has side and rear cameras. Normally the rear camera is on but when the turn signal is used the system switches to the right or left side camera. The display is on the center dash. It was very intuitive and easy to adapt to. I tend to use it instead of the externally mounted conventional side mirrors. The cameras have wide angle and work in all lighting conditions. The rear had some issues in rain, some droplets would degrade the picture somewhat. (ot: hope the X can be flat towed behind the RV!)

 

[Fanatic]

https://www2.unece.org/wiki/download/attachments/25264588/IGCMS-II-07-17 BASt Final_Report_CMS.PDF
https://www2.unece.org/wiki/downloa...28 BASt presentation Bierbach_Frey.pdf?api=v2
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/docs/IO/147...aptive-Lighting-DominicHillenbrand-NVIDIA.pdf

Just some links to the research thats being done on this...
Looks like maybe 2016 they will reach a approval.

http://www.electronics-eetimes.com/...-view-mirrors.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222925378

Really hoped this would make it into production.. We will see when it comes into cars

 

[tinm]

New York Times out with an article entitled "The End of the Road May Be Near for Side Mirrors"

Mentions BMW and Tesla.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/automobiles/end-of-the-road-may-be-near-for-side-mirrors.html