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Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation [Car announced 04.23.2024]

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who knows what will come out of this ...

 
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Either a Chinese automaker will buy Lucid, or they won’t. That’s what will become of anything Lucid.

Lucid is not an “automaker” by any traditional sense. They lose $400,000 on each car they sell and have no path to profitability. Their goal is simply to create enough illusion to dupe a Chinese company into buying them out.
 
Either a Chinese automaker will buy Lucid, or they won’t. That’s what will become of anything Lucid.

Lucid is not an “automaker” by any traditional sense. They lose $400,000 on each car they sell and have no path to profitability. Their goal is simply to create enough illusion to dupe a Chinese company into buying them out.
Wasn't that long ago that similar statements were being made about Tesla.
 
Either a Chinese automaker will buy Lucid, or they won’t. That’s what will become of anything Lucid.

Lucid is not an “automaker” by any traditional sense. They lose $400,000 on each car they sell and have no path to profitability. Their goal is simply to create enough illusion to dupe a Chinese company into buying them out.
Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund owns more than half of Lucid, and Lucid has built a factory in Saudi Arabia that is currently assembling Lucids from kits shipped from the U.S., but which is supposed to eventually fully manufacture Lucids. Lucid will stay in business as long as the Saudis want them to, and I would be surprised if the Saudis have any plans to sell out to the Chinese.
 
Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund owns more than half of Lucid, and Lucid has built a factory in Saudi Arabia that is currently assembling Lucids from kits shipped from the U.S., but which is supposed to eventually fully manufacture Lucids. Lucid will stay in business as long as the Saudis want them to, and I would be surprised if the Saudis have any plans to sell out to the Chinese.
Get OUTTA here with those facts!!

Only random hyperbolic speculation allowed in this thread! 😉
 
Not true:

You’re wrong. This is absolutely true! Start at 11:20 in the video below and you will see. They removed about 700 lbs from the Plaid and it got slower especially off the line.

Removing weight only helps if you increase traction as well when launching from a dig.

The Model 3 isn’t going to come from the factory with a Drag Pack. With normal street tires it isn’t going to hook if you give it 3 Plaid motors. It probably wouldn’t hook with only 1 Plaid motor.

Two Model S LR motors is all it will need to get deep into the 10s. Adding 3 Plaid motors would just be wasteful. You wouldn’t be able to utilize their full potential until you were above something like 70+ mph.

 
You’re wrong. This is absolutely true! Start at 11:20 in the video below and you will see. They removed about 700 lbs from the Plaid and it got slower especially off the line.

Removing weight only helps if you increase traction as well when launching from a dig.

The Model 3 isn’t going to come from the factory with a Drag Pack. With normal street tires it isn’t going to hook if you give it 3 Plaid motors. It probably wouldn’t hook with only 1 Plaid motor.

Two Model S LR motors is all it will need to get deep into the 10s. Adding 3 Plaid motors would just be wasteful. You wouldn’t be able to utilize their full potential until you were above something like 70+ mph.

A literally hacked up car vs something from the factory with properly tuned traction control are very different things.
 
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A literally hacked up car vs something from the factory with properly tuned traction control are very different things.
All traction control can do is limit the power. My whole point is that it would be a waste to put three Plaid motors in there because you wouldn’t be able to utilize their full potential until you were above 70 mph.

You could accomplish the same thing up to 70 mph with the Model S LR motors. I know some people care about roll racing but Musk and Tesla don’t.

It won’t have 3 Plaid motors. It just won’t.
 
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All traction control can do is limit the power. My whole point is that it would be a waste to put three Plaid motors in there because you wouldn’t be able to utilize their full potential until you were above 70 mph.

You could accomplish the same thing up to 70 mph with the Model S LR motors. I know some people care about roll racing but Musk and Tesla don’t.

It won’t have 3 Plaid motors. It just won’t.
It won't have 3 plaid motors because Tesla is cheap not because there's no advantages

In a prepped drag strip scenario, yes it won't make any difference. Anywhere else, it will have real world improvements. Especially handling.
 
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It won't have 3 plaid motors because Tesla is cheap not because there's no advantages

In a prepped drag strip scenario, yes it won't make any difference. Anywhere else, it will have real world improvements. Especially handling.
You are WAY underestimating the cost increase those motors would add. They aren’t free. Adding an extra motor alone would add tremendous cost. Never mind adding 3 Plaid motors to the cost.

There are other MUCH less expensive ways to improve handling instead of adding a second rear motor.
 
You are WAY underestimating the cost increase those motors would add. They aren’t free. Adding an extra motor alone would add tremendous cost. Never mind adding 3 Plaid motors to the cost.

There are other MUCH less expensive ways to improve handling instead of adding a second rear motor.
I think you’re overestimating the cost. So far the smallest price difference between the X LR and X Plaid has been $3.5k (since increased to $8.5k). So probably could be done for somewhere between $5k and $10k.

Either way, you seem to agree the reason it won’t happen is because Tesla is cheap, not because there isn’t a performance advantage.
 
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I think you’re overestimating the cost. So far the smallest price difference between the X LR and X Plaid has been $3.5k (since increased to $8.5k). So probably could be done for somewhere between $5k and $10k.

Either way, you seem to agree the reason it won’t happen is because Tesla is cheap, not because there isn’t a performance advantage.
What are you even talking about? The price difference between either LR and Plaid versions is $15k right now.

Now imagine the cost difference between going from the MUCH cheaper Model 3 Performance motor and a Plaid motor. You would be talking about a $65k+ Model 3 at least.

You are just simply wrong about this. It would be incredibly wasteful to put 3 Plaid motors in a Model 3. It won’t ever happen because it is just a terrible idea.

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What are you even talking about? The price difference between either LR and Plaid versions is $15k right now.

Now imagine the cost difference between going from the MUCH cheaper Model 3 Performance motor and a Plaid motor. You would be talking about a $65k+ Model 3 at least.

You are just simply wrong about this. It would be incredibly wasteful to put 3 Plaid motors in a Model 3. It won’t ever happen because it is just a terrible idea.

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X Plaid forces the 6 seater, which is a $6500 option on the LR. So true price difference right now is $8500. In October it was $3500

The motors in the LR are essentially slightly worked over model 3 motors. And the Plaid is basically a model 3 motor with a carbon sleeved rotor. The manufacturing costs just aren’t that different.