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Michigan Tesla Stores and Service Centers
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Pilot_51
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Yeah, it'll take some time for them to get up to speed with the loads of information us hardcore fans have become familiar with. The "coming soon" marker has been smack dab where Google Maps puts the Detroit label since early 2013 and I am convinced it is a way to designate an area where free ranger/valet service is provided (see how Pittsburgh says "Ranger/valet is provided for free for customers within 50 miles of this location"). I am expecting the first service center to be located somewhere around the Bloomfield area since that seems to be where the highest owner concentration is and around where Tesla's efforts have been focused. Unless by some miracle Tesla finds a loophole better than rangers, the law will have to be changed before they can open a service center.
Go easy with the salt as to not intimidate them with how much more you know. Besides, we need so save it for the streets.
Bheuring
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I think a Toledo service center is the best and easiest way for tesla to get to Michigan also I live by Toledo so it would make me super happy
Well, I thought I'd bump this subject since it is still relevant.
I contacted my insurance company about quoting a tesla and gave them a representative VIN and after initial positive response, I got an email a few days later saying "Nope", that they couldn't insure a Tesla in Michigan because of a lack of service centers! The next best quote would have cost me $1800 more per year instead of the quoted $1000. Ouch!
Of course, it still says Detroit, Coming Soon, and there still isn't one in Toledo, etc.
So, that's the bump I hit. Does anyone else have any additional information or an insurance company to recommend?
I contacted my insurance company about quoting a tesla and gave them a representative VIN and after initial positive response, I got an email a few days later saying "Nope", that they couldn't insure a Tesla in Michigan because of a lack of service centers! The next best quote would have cost me $1800 more per year instead of the quoted $1000. Ouch!
Of course, it still says Detroit, Coming Soon, and there still isn't one in Toledo, etc.
So, that's the bump I hit. Does anyone else have any additional information or an insurance company to recommend?
I've had my car insured by Progressive and Liberty Mutual with no such problem.
Pilot_51
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Any chance that's Auto Owners? Someone on reddit ran into the same issue.
I have Amica and have been happy with them, though haven't had to file a claim yet, knock on wood. I have renewal coming up this month on the 18th and have bumped liability coverage from low/mid-range to the max for just $105/yr more, or $2516 total for the year.
BelgyFester
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That was me. I just wandered my way over here to see if anyone else has suggestions. I'm still frustrated about the Auto-Owners debacle. Was going to be $900/year before they decided they couldn't insure because of the service center thing.
Pilot_51
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Yeah, that is a shame. Hopefully you made it clear to them that the reason there aren't service centers here is because of a corrupt law banning direct service. Should also point out that Tesla still provides convenient and timely service in Michigan even with that limitation, thanks to their rangers, in my experience anyway.
On the other hand, approved body shops aren't restricted in the same way and there apparently aren't any of them in Michigan either. The nearest one to me is around Cleveland.
On the other hand, approved body shops aren't restricted in the same way and there apparently aren't any of them in Michigan either. The nearest one to me is around Cleveland.
Several of us have used Cauly Ferrari in West Bloomfield - they are Tesla approved for most body work and they do a great job.
Tesla expanding into own space at Somerset.
Tesla opens first standalone gallery in Michigan
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/10/tesla_opens_new_standalone_gal.html
Now... if they would expand into new factory in Durand...
Tesla opens first standalone gallery in Michigan
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2017/10/tesla_opens_new_standalone_gal.html
Now... if they would expand into new factory in Durand...
Have you seen news definitively linking Foxconn to TIM? I've only seen speculation (and I think that was before the WI announcement).
Lets review the time line:
October 2014:
Rick Snyder and Michigan Legislature change Michigan statue to single out and bar Tesla from sales and service in Michigan.
July 12, 2017:
Snyder gets biz incentives win as Michigan woos Foxconn
July 17, 2017:
Project TIM Meeting
Mid-Michigan town wants details on secret $4B project promising 800 jobs
July 28, 2017:
Snyder to lead trade trip to China
August 6, 2017:
Gov. Rick Snyder, Foxconn meet in China to talk potential Michigan investment
August 21, 2017:
Federal judge in Tesla case: Lawmakers must turn over records to electric automaker
Rick Snyder and the Michigan Legislature created a tax incentive to attract a Taiwanese manufacturer in 2017. Rick Snyder, the Michigan Legislature, and the Auto Dealers singled out and barred an American Manufacturer from selling and servicing new products in Michigan back in 2014.
No speculation, just special interest driven politics.
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And those articles are preceded and followed by:
June 16, 2017:
$5 billion dollar "Project Tim" could create 800 jobs near Durand
September 19, 2017:
It's official: Foxconn will get $3 billion to build a plant in Wisconsin
What little description there has been of TIM seems to align with Tesla + a bit of SpaceX.
I would love it to be Tesla, SpaceX, or both. But, it's Foxconn. Foxconn plans on multiple operations in the Midwest. Wisconsin is one location. Snyder is pushing for Michigan to be the second site. Let me put a bow on this conversation: does Tesla continue its Legal Action in the Western District of Michigan if they are investing $5B + on a manufacturing facility? Explain why Tesla invests $5 Billion into a location that prohibits the sale and servicing of its products?
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...g-possibility-for-foxconn-to-come-to-michigan
"In a phone interview Monday night from Shanghai, where he was concluding a nine-day trade trip in China, Snyder said there is a "strong possibility" for Foxconn to still locate in the state after the company in recent weeks picked neighboring Wisconsin for a $10 billion display panel plant with 3,000 employees that could grow to 13,000."
I think Elon can separate the different issues of dealership sales model and manufacturing. In his shoes, I would predict that the dealership restriction will ultimately be overcome. And even if not, I would want the factory where it makes the most sense. Detroit already has a lot of automotive suppliers to feed into a Gigafactory, employee costs are lower that other locals, there are transportation links,and huge tracts of land. I think he is pragmatic enough to not go with a lesser location out of spite (or other synonym). First principles doesn't care about factors not directly related to the objective.
Currently, the SC network build out puts Michigan at #5 in terms of locations (or is it chargers?), Tesla is not avoiding Michigan in that regard. (not at all the same, but Elon's SpaceX test site is in Texas which doesn't do Tesla sales)
tl;dr; I think the lawsuit is orthogonal to the factory.
I would say sometimes it can be fun to thumb your nose in the face of idiocy.
