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Having driven manual transmission cars for most of my life, Creep just isn't for me. I want the car to do only what I ask it to do with the accelerator pedal. No press, no go.
Also, I don't see how a combination of Creep and Hold would work. You are approaching a red light... so you lift off the accelerator and the car comes to a complete stop. Now... how do you get it to creep? Your foot is aready off of both pedals and the car is stopped.
Also, I don't see how a combination of Creep and Hold would work. You are approaching a red light... so you lift off the accelerator and the car comes to a complete stop. Now... how do you get it to creep? Your foot is aready off of both pedals and the car is stopped.
You would simply tap the accelerator the same way you can today when you're in creep mode and you manually engage hold by pressing harder on the brake. One light tap and the car will start creeping forward again. I do this every day.
I'm curious how HOLD works on extremely steep hills, like Seattle or San Francisco roads. If it decelerates rapidly while going uphill, does it engage brake hold without sliding backwards. I'm guessing downhill still needs some added brake pedal action.
that’s what he is saying - if the HOLD mode is used, you won’t need to press on the brake, like ever, to come to a full stop. And the premise of engaging CREEP is letting go of brake pedal.
Your use case is slightly different and that’s what I was saying to him above - to combine CREEP and HOLD (instead of ROLL and HOLD as it’s implemented today in 36.2), one must press the brake pedal AFTER the car has come to a full stop. Then next time, as soon as you release the brake, car creeps forward. Not very elegant. So, having given it another thought, it’s done with the best case of usability in mind.
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Finally, I’ve been able to park in really tight spots (about 2 inches on either end) with HOLD mode - no problems here.
@verygreen says the cars see the cones but doesn’t send the data to the MCU in the HW3 format it is expecting to show them.
Oh - I guess you mean you come within 2" when shuttling into the space...How do you park with 2 inches on either end??
How do you park with 2 inches on either end??
Oh - I guess you mean you come within 2" when shuttling into the space...
That's why manuals are going the way of the dodo. And that's from someone who swore he'd never have a non-manual because they were so crappy/slow/slushy/uncontrollable. Guess what? Times change.
I'm going to continue to use Hold mode because I DO think it's better than Creep in most cases.
I know, but why couldn't the way to exit hold mode and engage creep again simply be to tap on the accelerator the same way you can today if you're in hold mode regardless of how you entered hold mode? Creep on reverse, creep when rolling forward and not pressing the accelerator, after having pressed the accelerator enough to go faster than creep speed when going forward then engage hold after coming to a complete stop, tap the accelerator to exit hold. What am I missing here? Everytime I'm at a light and I think it will be a longer light, I press harder on the brake to engage hold and remove my feet from the pedals. I tap the accelerator to get going again.
I just tried it and think it’s kind of how it is working today. When you come to a full stop with HOLD mode, and when you tap the accelerator pedal, you should be able to “mimic” the CREEP mode a little bit if you don’t floor it. It’s just not 100% CREEPesque lol
it was on twitter somewhere.@diamond.g , do you have a source link to @verygreen ’s comment somewhere?
Lol parking in North Beach be likeMad skillz
Grew up partly in Paris, you have to be freakin’ good at parking!
No, I mean there are literally only 2 inches of space left of either side after I’m done parking.
it was on twitter somewhere.
Basically in reference to this one green on Twitter
how do you think the car knows it cannot drive between the cones and such.