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Without the autonomous hardware. LOL.Although it does seem to occupy the empty spaces between S,X and 3 AWD, I spec'd one out on the website. using my X90D as a guide.
Mine came to about $86k with most of the same or similar options.
What good is autonomous hardware if you don’t have autonomous software to use that hardwareWithout the autonomous hardware. LOL.
What good is planning for the future when you can't think outside the presentWhat good is autonomous hardware if you don’t have autonomous software to use that hardware
Planning for the future does it have redundant hardware. How’s it going to clean it’s cameras, when they are caked with snow and ice or dirt does it have heaters or washers?What good is planning for the future when you can't think outside the present
US pricing vs European pricing is excellent.
About $76k for a vehicle comprably equipped to a base Model S.
I-Pace value for the money vs Tesla value for the money is poor.
How is that poor?
If the Model S is quicker, has more cargo capacity, bigger car and so on ...
... but all depends if you want any of that of course.
Or: the difference in spec means that the comparison wasn't sensible in the first place - Apples and Oranges - made all the more common because not many EVs to compare any EV against ...
But that's Jag's fault, they decided to compare the i-Pace against a Model-X, about as much Chalk and Cheese as exists, other than that they are both EVs - except that they managed to get the i-Pace a couple of tenths quicker 0-60 - so something to Crow about, but I very much doubt that, at those 0-60 times, anyone is going to base a buying decision on that difference ...
I think Jaguar have shot themselves in the foot on that one ... particularly if Tesla does an OTA to lower the 0-60 time of the whole Model-X fleet to match i-Pace!!
Jaguar would have done much better to have compared against the various ICE that they are likely to steal market-share from. There are plenty of those ... particularly targeting punters currently driving Marques for whom good coach building is important; for that sector Jag would be at-least-as-good, so an easy steal with all the EV benefits
But I did think that the strap lines were inspired (maybe someone else has already had them, but they caught my attention at least)
Electrifying performance
Electrifying styling
Jaguar electrifies
But Jaguar has OTA updates, too.
I think no body would notice the difference [in size] between the I-Pace and a X75D, too
ut I get it, Jaguar has put up this video, some of you guys think that's unfair and say the S is even quicker, which might be actually true. And sure, the cars are different, especially in trunk space.
But I still don't get why the I-Pace is poor value for money
this EV is really good,
It isn't poor value. But in a comparison against MS, specifically, then at same price then there are a lot of differences - and for some/many? people those are significant. But that brings me back to the point I was trying to make : that just means that the comparison wasn't sensible in the first place, other than being EV and possible to spec at "same price", they aren't equivalent..
If you do compare i-Pace and MS at the same price and the MS is faster, has more space, etc. etc. then that is what makes people say that the i-pace is poor value - it only means in THAT comparison, and subjective for THAT PERSON because for that person the extra-space (or whatever) in MS matters. So back to my point: the comparison wasn't valid in the first place because of the significance of the differences.
But Tesla is already out there, its shortcomings are well known, but for me the only assumptions I can make about Jaguar are related to its build quality. I know nothing of Jaguars ability to create a good Battery Management System, negligible battery degradation over time, and I have no idea how well the promise of huge rollout of fast chargers across Europe will actually turn out to deliver in a year's time ...
I'm a Tesla owner, I'm impressed by their achievements, but that's it. I am appalled by how useless their back office and COMMs are, but I would almost certainly buy another Tesla before buying a Version-1 EV from any other marque
why would they ever buy the I-Pace over the F-Pace?
What good is planning for the future when you can't think outside the present
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Diesel cars being banned for most European cities within the next few years
“Arrrgghhhhh my car’s functionality has crashed because I have to clean it”......Planning for the future does it have redundant hardware. How’s it going to clean it’s cameras, when they are caked with snow and ice or dirt does it have heaters or washers?
There’s a nice big multi billion dollar lawsuit if they don’t install that software or the hardware isn’t up to scratchMy car flies at altitudes up to 12,000ft. I'm just waiting on the wings and tail to make it safer to do.
A 2018 Model S/X/3 will drive in full autonomous mode today. It will be safer after they install the software though.
If it's autonomous and, take Elon's example, you summon it from California to New York, how are you going to clean it, if the camera's get dirty and can not be used along the way. You just going to fly to the location and clean the camera's so it can finish it's drive?“Arrrgghhhhh my car’s functionality has crashed because I have to clean it”......
There’s a nice big multi billion dollar lawsuit if they don’t install that software or the hardware isn’t up to scratch