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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
- Thread starter Buckminster
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd doesn't read signs properly fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
sleepydoc
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Oh, absolutely! Look at how many people automatically say “That’s the [Democrat’s/Rebulican/s]” fault for everything that they don’t like or goes wrong. And humans supposedly have brains!
sleepydoc
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Daniel in SD
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Yes, I'm sure their intent was obvious and the walk countdown was still in progress. The car should not have advanced. It doesn't really matter if a pedestrian should not start crossing when the don't walk is flashing. 99% of pedestrians do anyway.
Daniel in SD
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It’s funny that Dirty Tesla has to explain to the driver that pedestrians “big time have the right of way” in a crosswalk with the green walk symbol.
sleepydoc
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In response to @pianoAI, I assume yhou mean “my biggest worry with AP/FSZD in general is it suddenly departing the lane and swerving in to traffic”
To that point and related to the ‘over fitting’ discussion, how does a NN trained system handle situations where you need to break the rules? We saw a situation earlier where it appeared to hit some bollards. In general that’s wrong, unless your choice is hitting the bollards or hitting a pedestrian. Another situation is an object falling off of a truck. If there’s no oncoming traffic then you would cross over to avoid the accident. There are many situations in which one needs to choose the ‘least bad’ option and/or the correct path is also normally illegal.
No, at that point it was flashing don't walk, at which point pedestrians are not allowed to enter the crosswalk. But also like I said, literally everyone does it. From a pedestrian point of view, as long as you make it across before the countdown hits zero you are golden. The big time right of way in Ann Arbor generally references the fact that at unsignalled crosswalks, cars are required to yield even if a pedestrian is just on the sidewalk, not even right at the curb, which is pretty hard sometimes as a driver as you can't tell if they are just standing around or planning to cross. Especially in the places where bus stops are right next to the crosswalks :/
When the crosswalk stays red when the vehicle light is green at the start.
Although on further review, the light was going red, in which case a vehicle in the intersection can complete it's maneuver (not running over pedestrians, of course)
Ok, so you are talking about later after walk was activated and about 4 seconds on the countdown.
Daniel in SD
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Daniel in SD
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Never seen that before. Around here I’ve seen the opposite. Crosswalk turns green first in the hopes that drivers will see pedestrians moving.
Yeah, I misinterpreted the situation to begin with. I'm used to what you are saying.
sleepydoc
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Daniel in SD
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Yeah. What happens is light turns yellow right here and pedestrians start moving before the green walk symbol because they assume the Tesla will stop.
Plus there was nowhere for the Tesla to go due to traffic. Still, they were crissing on the red no walk...
That intersection is more complicated with how the lights and crosswalks are timed because of the fact that it is a T intersection so all cars are forced to turn into the pedestrians crossing, plus there are a zillion pedestrians there. In any case, the pedestrians weren't jaywalking, at worst they were just trying to get across before the countdown ended. The tesla should have sat and waited and then exited the intersection when it was clear.
At 95% of the non-T intersections downtown the walk symbol appears about 4 seconds before the light turns green.
Ok, I was right, that is a delayed walk signal
And first person was definitely jaywalking:
True but we've been told this is nothing but net. Of course the truth serum is driving it where we all experience the results or lack there of. So we don't need to know where anything is happening just that the training is successful.
