I had an interesting experience tonight with V12. Leaving a store, I decided to see if FSD could drive me out of the parking lot. It was doing fine until it spotted a nice empty spot between two cars and tried to park itself again.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
1. Get plenty of data in each jurisdiction of good drivers obeying the laws
2. Input the GPS position the the neural network
3. Let the neural network figure out which laws applies where it is
Agreed, and I don't see why a condensed version of the important laws, probably rolled into the map database, couldn't be tokenized and made into an input for the neural network.
Yeah like "if isCalifornia : region = [1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ... 0]" and input region to the neural network.
This is not v12 Beta. When on the interstate you are on the v11 stack since v12 doesn't work on limited access yet. It switches stacks like the "old" v10 did.
I don’t have the hawt new 12.x.x yet, but I’d like to see if it can handle the short trip from the end of my driveway to stop sign at the end of my road without:
-driving off the road
-slamming on the brakes 15ft before said stop sign
-coming to a complete stop if there is oncoming traffic
This is about an 1/8mile trip on the very rural road I live on. It would be an improvement if it can solve this short trip.
-driving off the road
-slamming on the brakes 15ft before said stop sign
-coming to a complete stop if there is oncoming traffic
This is about an 1/8mile trip on the very rural road I live on. It would be an improvement if it can solve this short trip.
Well if you had my "first" ⅛ mile (or more sometimes) then you know FSD will likely NEVER be able to solve or drive it.
Nothing we really haven't been expecting but looks like 12.2.1 went out to all the "lucky" 1%s and is likely dead now. So hopefully will we see 12.3 by early next week. Any bets if it will be a rollout to the same testers or increased to the 5% test? Being optimistic I just bought another "lotto ticket" for the 5% increase 12.3 drawing. Of course going by my dismal history of bringing up the rear in receiving releases it seems a waste of effort. But hope springs eternal. 
jebinc
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Agree, 100%. Fans have been rationalizing poor performance for years now, but the next release will “blow your mind,” of course.
jebinc
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KArnold
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Ah, with the over-training being from the west coast I can now see the problem with running stop signs. They don't yet have a video yet from the 3 people who actually stop for signs over there.
LSDTester#1
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I don’t disagree but I get nags all the time with both hands in the yoke eyes forward. Turned the nags off often by adjusting the volume. Inadvertently cancelled FSD by torsion. If your hands are on the wheel, then the camera should recognize that and not have to solely rely on a physical move.
There is no shortage of challenges. Gotta hope NVDA's GPUs make the difference. George Hotz says vehicle autonomy is at least 10 years away. We might be looking back at HW3 and HW4 equipped vehicles like that old incapable 1980's Carnegie Mellon van.
jebinc
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When it comes to Elon, as the CEO, he should know better than to repeatedly spout off that full FSD is near, when it’s not. No excuse.
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LSDTester#1
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He didn’t specify which iteration is v12.Now, now…. Remember, Elon said v12 would not be beta….
Hope springs eternal.
Hopefully 12.3 is already being tested internally with positive results so 12.3.1 can be release soon thereafter.Nothing we really haven't been expecting but looks like 12.2.1 went out to all the "lucky" 1%s and is likely dead now. So hopefully will we see 12.3 by early next week. Any bets if it will be a rollout to the same testers or increased to the 5% test? Being optimistic I just bought another "lotto ticket" for the 5% increase 12.3 drawing. Of course going by my dismal history of bringing up the rear in receiving releases it seems a waste of effort. But hope springs eternal.
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There's no need to report freeway behavior for V12. The car is using V11 there. That message is V11 behavior.
Presumably the same for other countries. I.e., will Europeans have a separate software release?
OxBrew
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Sentience might be closer than we think!
(Sorry dad, I need a nap, right after I finish scrolling IG clips of Waymo running red lights)
Wonder how many of these bad behaviors are related to FSD being trained to follow other vehicles and thereby assume all is safe and legal. It could be a training short cut but there are bad outcomes.
