Factory Delivery

[dsm363]

working with the map on plugshare, the current plan is to beg and plead a nissan dealer in Lafetette to let me charge for a few hours. In downtown indy there is a public parking garage with 4 EVSE's about a block away from several nice restaurants and a movie theater. From there is it 98 miles to my door (as long as I charge in range mode, and keep the speed below 60, I think I will be able to make it) according to plugshare, there is nothing in between indy and my house (at least I live on the far west side of Cincinnati) It will be an EV adventure to say the least.

You should sign up for a ChargePoint card too (I think it's free to get the card but you have to sign up with $25 on the card). Actually, it looks like at this time though, they don't even have any chargers in Lafayette or Indianapolis which is strange. 100 miles in Range mode won't be a problem for you. You'd make it going 60 mph.
Check out this list of RV parks as well as a backup plan. Can call them and ask if they have NEMA 14-50 outlets for use to charge an electric car. You'll probably be the first person to ever ask them that.

 

[jcstp]

OpenChargeMap.org : The open, global database of charging point information


OpenChargeMap Map
here a map with chargingpoints

 

[samcarney]

I have used Indy Lakes RV park Indy Lakes RV Park | Electric Car Stations for trips to from Indianapolis they have NEMA 14-50 outlets and will charge $15. The Roadster can make the 170 mile trip from Chicago to Indianapolis. You may need an intermediate stop. There is a Roadster owner in Lafeyette that has NEMA 14-50. I can't speak for other owners but check the posts here and on the Tesla Motors forum. He has made offers to let people charge at his place.

You should sign up for a ChargePoint card too (I think it's free to get the card but you have to sign up with $25 on the card). Actually, it looks like at this time though, they don't even have any chargers in Lafayette or Indianapolis which is strange. 100 miles in Range mode won't be a problem for you. You'd make it going 60 mph.
Check out this list of RV parks as well as a backup plan. Can call them and ask if they have NEMA 14-50 outlets for use to charge an electric car. You'll probably be the first person to ever ask them that.

 

[ckessel]

I talked to a store rep and he indicated that they wouldn't be doing that for Model S customers that take delivery from a store.

I'd be surprised if there isn't some sort of charge if you're taking delivery anywhere other than the factory. Historically, the point of the destination charge is covering the cost of transporting from the factory to the store. Now, given every location is required to charge the same destination charge (I think that's true) in the classic dealer sales model, I've always been a bit baffled why it's not part of the MSRP.

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

I'd be surprised if there isn't some sort of charge if you're taking delivery anywhere other than the factory. Historically, the point of the destination charge is covering the cost of transporting from the factory to the store. Now, given every location is required to charge the same destination charge (I think that's true) in the classic dealer sales model, I've always been a bit baffled why it's not part of the MSRP.

Here's some interesting stuff on this: Vehicle Destination Charges - New Car Business Destination Fees - Kelley Blue Book

Logic would tell you that if you lived near a port or a particular automotive assembly plant, you could potentially pay less for the destination fees — not so. The destination charge is calculated by each manufacturer based on something called an "equalized delivery." In other words, they factor the cost of shipping all vehicles in the line and "equalize" the cost so the fee is "equal" for all car-buyers.

Many people mistakenly believe that the destination fee includes the transport of imported vehicles from their assembly plants overseas. This is not the case. The destination fee listed on a new car's sticker represents only freight charges within the United States. So who pays for the international shipping? Well, you do. That cost is factored into the U.S. pricing on individual models by the American headquarters of each import manufacturer.

From an historical prospective, there was a time when you could travel to Detroit and pick up your vehicle direct from the manufacturer, thereby eliminating the destination charge. This ended over 30 years ago, when the automotive industry adopted equalized freight charges.

So, some of us (in Calif. for sure) would be "subsidizing" the delivery costs to our friends NigelM in Florida, Evan in Nixa, MO, AnOutsider in PA and Mycroft in WA to pick on a few :wink:

 

[AnOutsider]

So, some of us (in Calif. for sure) would be "subsidizing" the delivery costs to our friends NigelM in Florida, Evan in Nixa, MO, AnOutsider in PA and Mycroft in WA to pick on a few :wink:

Thanks for subsidizing GG! You're a champ :smile:

 

[haneefdm]

Based on various posts (on Roadster), I see that we are estimating a destination charge of approx. US$2000 for a Model S.

I feel like that is a bit excessive. A BMW 5 Series Destination fee is US$875 (same for MB E550). I am talking about the case where I am picking it up from the dealership/Tesla-Store and not home delivery.

Is there something inherently more expensive/complicated transporting a Model S compared to other luxury vehicles?

 

[KBF]

Is there something inherently more expensive/complicated transporting a Model S compared to other luxury vehicles?

Yes: I would assume it's volume efficiencies. Tesla will be shipping only a few cars at a time to certain destinations, particularly as they ramp up. Maybe a few years down the road we'll see this change.

 

[Todd Burch]

So, some of us (in Calif. for sure) would be "subsidizing" the delivery costs to our friends NigelM in Florida, Evan in Nixa, MO, AnOutsider in PA and Mycroft in WA to pick on a few :wink:

Damned socialism!

Hehe in all seriousness, unless this is law, we have no idea what's going to happen. Tesla has proven so far to be unlike any other car company. It of course makes sense to charge something, but I'd be very surprised if it's anywhere near as much as the Roadster delivery cost.

 

[vfx]

All sounds like much more hassle than it may be worth to a small, budding car company. ...

Lotus and Ferrari do this. It's perfect for a budding car company to treat their few customers as very special.

 

[AnOutsider]

Lotus and Ferrari do this. It's perfect for a budding car company to treat their few customers as very special.

They're both pretty established too... I just worry about complications this early on. I guess I'd just rather them be more focused on getting ramped up than niceties like this. Unless of course they can do both without sacrificing quality.

 

[Doug_G]

I'd be surprised if there isn't some sort of charge if you're taking delivery anywhere other than the factory. Historically, the point of the destination charge is covering the cost of transporting from the factory to the store. Now, given every location is required to charge the same destination charge (I think that's true) in the classic dealer sales model, I've always been a bit baffled why it's not part of the MSRP.

That's so they can legally lie about the price in their advertising...

 

[goyogi]

I live 20 minutes from the factory and I'd pay a a high destination charge if they'd drop it off at my work while playing "oh yeah" by Yello.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ

 

[DrComputer]

I asked the LA store about factory pickup and they said that this "should" be available, but that they'd know more as we get closer to production. They said one of the first SuperChargers is going to be at Harris Ranch on the 5 freeway so it would make picking up the car in Fremont and driving to LA a simple task.

 

[Lyon]

I live 20 minutes from the factory and I'd pay a a high destination charge if they'd drop it off at my work while playing "oh yeah" by Yello.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ

Awesome.

 

[ryanjm]

I hadn't even thought about the destination charge, but if I'm able to get a Model S I want to pick it up right from the Tesla Factory just because

A) I can! (I live in San Francisco)

and

B) I love the idea of driving it right out of the factory and having nobody else drive it but me, right from mile 0.

 

[AnOutsider]

I love the idea of driving it right out of the factory and having nobody else drive it but me, right from mile 0.

They drive it around their little test thing in the factory at the very least.

 

[Robert.Boston]

So, some of us (in Calif. for sure) would be "subsidizing" the delivery costs to our friends NigelM in Florida, Evan in Nixa, MO, AnOutsider in PA and Mycroft in WA to pick on a few :wink:

Thanks, GG! The to-be-opened Tesla Boston store will be the farthest North American store from Fremont (about 80 miles further than Dania Beach). I think that my drive from the factory to my summer home might be the longest of those tagged on my map of Model S reservation holders, were I to take factory delivery: 3,277 miles by the most direct route, but I'm sure I'd have a much longer drive to get around the EVSE wasteland of Nevada and the western Plains! That would be a fun odyssey if I had the time to burn.

 

[Mycroft]

That would be a fun odyssey if I had the time to burn.

I can see it now, pulling up to some remote farmhouse with the range meter at zero. "Pardon me ma'am, could I trouble you to allow me to plug my car into your dryer outlet? What, no dryer outlet? How about the 110 outlet on the side of the barn? Yeah? Great! Don't mind me, I'll be sleeping in the car here for a couple days while I charge up and I have plenty of crackers and peanut butter to tide me over. Let me know if you have any chores that need doin' to pay for the $5 in electricity I'll be using."

:smile:

 

[clea]

Thanks, GG! The to-be-opened Tesla Boston store will be the farthest North American store from Fremont (about 80 miles further than Dania Beach). I think that my drive from the factory to my summer home might be the longest of those tagged on my map of Model S reservation holders, were I to take factory delivery: 3,277 miles by the most direct route, but I'm sure I'd have a much longer drive to get around the EVSE wasteland of Nevada and the western Plains! That would be a fun odyssey if I had the time to burn.

I was going to cry foul and state that a proposed Montreal store (still in North America) is further but google maps says that the trip to Boston from Freemont is a bit over 160 miles further than the trip to Montreal ... who would thunk it?

If we could get our cars at the same time, we could at least share part of the trip in a model s convoy! would make tapping a farmer's line more difficult however ...