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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Anyone having charging issues?
Car has had a schedule since 10am last night until 7am, hasn’t charged at all.
if I disable smart charging still won’t charge. It was playing up yesterday when it was plugged in.
I remember there were a few posts a while ago when schedules weren’t getting any charge, was it an octopus issue or Tesla?
I can get schedules still but it doesn’t seem to charge.
ill unplug the car and plug it back in, in a bit.

edit: unplugged and plugged back in working normally
 
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When I first got set up with IO Go, if I plugged the car in during day, it would start charging at what I assume is fully rate so I decided to set my charge time on the car to be 11.30pm which works ok. I remember reading this can be for up to 30mins before it stops and waits until IO decides.
I had been messing with the Tesla app and switched this 11.30 start off by accident so again it started to charge immediately. I checked the octopus app schedule which gave me a slot at time of plugin. Has something changed where the initial plug in is a low rate window or is this a one off?
TLDR - Is the initial plug in (daytime period) charged at peak rate or does IO immediately take control ?
 
When I first got set up with IO Go, if I plugged the car in during day, it would start charging at what I assume is fully rate so I decided to set my charge time on the car to be 11.30pm which works ok. I remember reading this can be for up to 30mins before it stops and waits until IO decides.
I had been messing with the Tesla app and switched this 11.30 start off by accident so again it started to charge immediately. I checked the octopus app schedule which gave me a slot at time of plugin. Has something changed where the initial plug in is a low rate window or is this a one off?
TLDR - Is the initial plug in (daytime period) charged at peak rate or does IO immediately take control ?

It's very unusual to get low rate slots that late in the day with the Tesla API integration. If you got a schedule though, you're good.

The Ohme/Zappi EVSE integrations have some different algorithm they've been given by Octupus which means they can often get off-peak charging at all sorts of funky times. It's quite annoying actually which is why I currently recommend if people have the choice of either integration they go for the EVSE version.
 
It's very unusual to get low rate slots that late in the day with the Tesla API integration. If you got a schedule though, you're good.

The Ohme/Zappi EVSE integrations have some different algorithm they've been given by Octupus which means they can often get off-peak charging at all sorts of funky times. It's quite annoying actually which is why I currently recommend if people have the choice of either integration they go for the EVSE version.
But if I don’t it’s full price until IO takes control of charger?
 
As soon as I plug my car in. I press stop charging on the app. It will then start when io tells it to.

Io knows the state of charge of my car as well and will not charge if I’m telling it to charge above the level the car is set to charge to.

I don’t schedule any charging in the Tesla app at all. It’s all done through the Octopus app.

If I turn down rate of charge on my charger, usually the octopus app will tell me it’s only charged to a certain percentage of the expected amount.
 
Changing tariff can cause a bit of a delay to Powerwall in terms of how it handles bags of energy pricing internally. Just allow it to discharge down to 0% then you'll find it charges back up after that and works per plan. Ideally delay that 0% until off-peak :)

Thank you. I wondered if it would sort itself out after a few days. It’s discharging to zero every morning though.
 
May depend what tariff rates you have configured then.

The key for whether it does arbitrage is import rate + unused export rate < later export rate ˗ 2 p/kWh.

You can obviously lie to it in terms of timings (has to be super off-peak or off-peak though), like I’ve done for discharge just before 7.5 p/kWh time.
 
May depend what tariff rates you have configured then.

The key for whether it does arbitrage is import rate + unused export rate < later export rate ˗ 2 p/kWh.

You can obviously lie to it in terms of timings (has to be super off-peak or off-peak though), like I’ve done for discharge just before 7.5 p/kWh time.

Thank you. I’ve seen somewhere people have put Export rate at 1p to hopefully force it to never export.….will see if this works!
 
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