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Enhanced Summon coming (Elon tweet 6 Apr, 2019)
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voip-ninja
Give me some sugar baby
Remember that FSD will also arrive by the end of 2019.
DopeGhoti
Active Member
It's already here, in Alpha, demonstrable on pre-configured known routes. That counts, right? Right?
In seriousness though, even if Tesla's engineers do deem the FSD software ready for wide release, it's unlikely they'll push the metaphorical button on it until they actually get governmental sign-offs on it. And I imagine even once it's active, it won't be very widely used until and unless Tesla affirmatively, in writing, claims liability for FSD mishaps where the autonomous car is at-fault. Unless, of course, it's pushed at L3 autonomy, in which case the 'F' in FSD actually stands for 'Fancifully'.
Kant.Ing
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jebinc
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woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Yes this is a long way off. Even comments from Elon about it have been vague. This is more of a wishlist feature that people are wanting to believe is right around the corner because “you can just stitch together autopark and Smart Summon,” but simply isn’t.
To me it falls under the “next tier” of FSD features, what I like to think of as FSD+, the ones that will enable Level4/5, robotaxis, and automatic charging with snake arms, etc., NOT the features that will be in hand within 2019 and 2020.
You’ll be able to send your car to go find a parking spot pretty much when you’ll be able to send it to go pick up your nephew. Like years from now, realistically.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
As long as I get it with HW 2.5 without FSD, I'm cool with waiting as long as necessary! (Looking at the original Enhanced Autopilot description, sounds like that is a done deal!
I can expect it! Hooray! Well, perhaps it is a little more subtle than that...have to look for more screen captures I guess...)
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
You want Smart Park without paying for the FSD option? I am pretty sure Smart Park will require the FSD package.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Without FSD? I’m sure it will be standard in like 2035!
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Also what I consider FSD+ will undoubtedly require HW4. And it will remain to be seen who exactly gets that as part of their FSD purchase.
But this is all cart before horse. Let’s get Smart Summon out there and let the fireworks begin!
But this is all cart before horse. Let’s get Smart Summon out there and let the fireworks begin!
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
This is the question (I have Enhanced AP). Looking at screen captures it looks like the S/X order page at the same time as Model 3 order page, with Enhanced Autopilot, clearly indicated parking in your garage ("be summoned to and from") when purchasing Enhanced Autopilot. More research would be needed, though I'm sure somewhere here can say more definitively what was promised to Model 3 EAP owners specifically.
Thus far Elon didn't indicate there was any hardware limitation to Smart Autopark so I expect it with EAP. There's no reason they would give it to S/X owners with HW2.5 but not to Model 3 owners (and it sounds like they are on the hook for the S/X owners...for whatever that is worth...
).This was the first search result I found....a bit ambiguous, I know. There are probably other better screen captures of Model 3 EAP description specifically....
EAP difference between Model 3 and S/X - Tesla Owners Online
Anyway, we'll see. I don't see why there would be a hardware issue (since we know Smart Summon has to work with HW 2.5).
Yeah I’m not sure it’s ever been explicitly stated. Or at least not as explicit as would be needed to reasonably expect it. 3k for FSD computer upgrade and continued software improvements is not much to ask in my humble opinion.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Well, it was for the S/X...so my expectation does not seem that unreasonable. And also Elon has stated it is coming without reference to HW limitations.
Mostly I just want it to park though. I'm cool without sending it to the garage. Just park between lines. And parallel park. That would be cool, and seems technically feasible given Enhanced Summon capabilities.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I think that might be wishful thinking. "self-park when near a parking spot" could be talking about the current Auto Park and "be summoned to and from" could easily be talking about Summon. I don't think it necessarily is talking about Smart Park. Yes, more research is needed.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Agreed. Rereading it more carefully, it does seem like they are talking about Dumb Summon in the S/X order page.
Anyway. There is hope since Elon has not mentioned any such limitations for Smart Autopark. And obviously HW2.5 can do it.
For sure. Always hope. Just don’t expect it and be upset when it requires FSD computer.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Sure, as I said just above, I agree, but from a technical perspective there's not any reason it won't be implemented, based on what we know now.
It'll be interesting to have a car that can flawlessly navigate parking lots, cognizant of parking lines, with Enhanced Summon on HW2.5, yet is completely incapable of parking between lines. Seems somewhat improbable - but also possible that they'll just throw in the towel and move on to HW3 FSD feature development since I agree the delivery of Smart Park is not explicitly required based on quick research here.
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