It's free speech as long as you don't talk back. Those who talked back have been consistently retaliated: from college student who tracks his jet to journalists and now the head of Supercharger that resulted in collective punishment with the layoff of the entire department:
Not sure there is non stop media coverage of Tesla or Elon Musk. But you gotta admit, Elon gives the press a lot of ammo.
no last time i voted it was for hillary.. but its clear political affiliations are skewing attitudes of Elon.. sad really... why can't people just like the car for what it is
The tried and true adage of "buying stocks in companies you like" still holds true. I realize Tobacco companies make money, but I don't buy stock or funds with them included. I believe in our society the only power we really have collectively is to speak with our money.
Exactly this. Steve Jobs by all accounts was seemingly not a great human....but....the dude made great phones and computers. Like it or not, Elon has done more to advance humanities progression to sustainable energy more than almost anyone. I can guarantee you that most of the people on this forum were never going to buy a Prius or a Nissan Leaf. If his ideologies aligned with the media he would be heralded as a hero.
I'd go for Rivian too, but Elon's recent behavior makes me consider whether Rivian will be suddenly barred from Superchargers one day, and that would be a blow. Is there any guarantee?
When the company is under stress? While yes, sales are down a bit. Tesla is still profitable. I don't think you could call it "under stress". It's not the friggin' end of the world when sales are down a bit. I think you'd find it difficult to find anyone who would call @RebeccaTinucci a "Prima Donna".
i also had a prius and was going to get a leaf but decided to spring more for a used 2012 model S mainly because it was larger (got the 7 seater model) and the SC network.. still miss that car but was afraid of the suspension costs after the warranty ran out so now i have the 7 seater Y with spring suspension
Yes I would agree with multiple bad decisions the last few years. Elon's Yoke and stalkless design is one of the worst ever. Firing the entire Supercharger team in the middle of the night is just total stupidity and yes it will damage the brand.
I unfortunately agree. Two friends who just purchased EVs (non-Tesla's) said the major reason they did not consider Tesla was Elon. The SuperCharger layoff seem crazy as that in my opinion, is their crown jewels. Maybe in a year when all other manufactures have incorporated it, but not now. If there is some logic to it I wish Elon would communicate it. But it appears to me he has totally lost focus on sustainable transportation, to go after the new shining object in his mind FSD. Since I also own some stock I hope he is right but I am very close to dumping what little stock I have. Hopefully we will learn something at the shareholder meeting coming up.It's been sort of a given that Elon Musk's association with the Tesla brand has both positive and negative connotations, but over the last couple of years it seems to have heavily tilted towards the negative. He seems to spend more time operating in tilt mode than he ever has. It all seemed to take a dark turn when he boasted about buying twitter. Since then it's been a real shizenpantz show.
As an owner of a couple of Tesla vehicles, I initially was willing to ignore some of his stupidity. Now I'm not so sure. Knowing what I know now I would not purchase a Tesla. My fear is that he will end up blowing it all, sacrificing any and all good will and market leadership that Tesla currently enjoys, and eventually will kill the company dead.
I think the final straw for me was the recent layoffs. From the outside looking in it is obvious there was no plan. It was just him and his emotional cannon going off. There is no way in hades that any of this can have a positive spin to it.
I read everything Elon Musk posted for a week. Send help.
If your media diet looked like his, you’d be red-pilled too.www.motherjones.com
What’s happening at Tesla? Here’s what experts think.
Can things be turned around at Tesla, or is this the beginning of the end?arstechnica.com
It really appears that this guy should not even be left in charge of his own life, much less a multi-billion dollar company.
Thoughts?
Yes, I know this will bring out the Musk fanboys, but if you look at him and what he's doing frankly and objectively, you may come away as alarmed as I currently am.
As an aside, I got the feeling he’d never really smoked pot before that incident. He looked incredibly uncomfortable doing so and didn’t know how to draw the smoke into his lungs…that felt pretty fake to me…like someone who wanted to look like he’d smoked before but had no idea how to do it.
