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Discussion: HW.4 Suite - Availability, retrofit, suitability etc.
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That doesn’t seem to be the news
(HW4 is “capable” of handling inputs from “phoenix” radar which is much better than current radars apparently, but there is still NO radar in new Model Ys with HW4) - that at least was my understanding. Maybe they give the option to pay and have radar added on at a later time to those without any radar but have HW4. Please update if it’s the other way from anyone with new Ys that have HW4
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All MY coming out of Fremont - both LR and P - have Matrix. Still not coming out of Austin I believe. My VIN is a Fremont build (as are all 7-seater LR).
I also had a MY LR on order and just found out it was a Freemont build and HW3. Used my first hold to see if it makes a difference. Should know more on June 13th with a 14 day hold.
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1607917-00-G - hd radar for hw4
originally saw it here
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Guess answer is NO to my question?
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From what I’ve seen, the MS and MX do have radar on HW4, MY doesn’t
Musk said it’s not needed lots of times. He’s also said HW3 will be capable of FSD, just not quite as good as HW4. So maybe they’re trying to differentiate the premium cars from the mainstream models and MS and MX get a higher quality or safer version, just like cheaper cars might not get curtain airbags all round the cabin but top of the range cars do. I’ve not seen anyone write this up in that way.
Musk said it’s not needed lots of times. He’s also said HW3 will be capable of FSD, just not quite as good as HW4. So maybe they’re trying to differentiate the premium cars from the mainstream models and MS and MX get a higher quality or safer version, just like cheaper cars might not get curtain airbags all round the cabin but top of the range cars do. I’ve not seen anyone write this up in that way.
I just made an account to give my own update on my Model Y purchase.
Long Range, Silver, Black interior, 19" Wheels, 7 Seater, Tow Hitch
I ordered about 2 weeks back and noticed my VIN was F788xxx, before the range of VIN #s we've read about including HW4.0
Delivery windows was set for June 2 - June 8.
I called today to put on hold. They released my VIN and said June 1st, the day before my delivery window, I'd be issued a new VIN. At that point I could call back and put it on hold for the full 14 days.
I will report back when the new VIN is issued and let everyone know what it was updated to.
Long Range, Silver, Black interior, 19" Wheels, 7 Seater, Tow Hitch
I ordered about 2 weeks back and noticed my VIN was F788xxx, before the range of VIN #s we've read about including HW4.0
Delivery windows was set for June 2 - June 8.
I called today to put on hold. They released my VIN and said June 1st, the day before my delivery window, I'd be issued a new VIN. At that point I could call back and put it on hold for the full 14 days.
I will report back when the new VIN is issued and let everyone know what it was updated to.
I remembered someone mentioned that Austin Built was moving back to HW3.0. only a few HW4.0 were made.
Just saw this confirmation of HD radar in Hw4 MS, I assume MX has the same setup. Based on the service manual shared by others on Twitter, one HD radar in front bumper; one interial radar (I believe it is for human detection). Not sure about MY yet.
Thanks for this. How did you find out that it has HW3? The telltale codes seem to have disappeared from page source.
Sharing out very interesting article about Model Y, HW4 and radar! (esp shorter term strategy and enhancements) —
www.notateslaapp.com
It’s still confusing to think about the purpose of HW4 (which had capability to assimilate radar) in Ys and not having radar (and say that Tesla will allow retrofit of radars into HW4 Ys down the line IFFF.. it’s actually a temporary supply issue).
TL;DR - confusion
How will 2 Ys with and without radar perform as far as FSD/even basic AP is concerned - seems like it’ll create more issues in supporting 2 versions of their live operational systems and divert their energy. Interesting way to operate though.
If only Elon cleared this confusion favorably for those with this ‘in between’ hardware using his favorite Twitter!!
Tesla's Model Y With Hardware 4.0 Doesn't Include Radar: We Take a Look at Why
Tesla's newly introduced Hardware 4.0, equipped in the Model 3 and Model Y, makes a bold shift away from radar technology. We dive into this development and the
www.notateslaapp.com
It’s still confusing to think about the purpose of HW4 (which had capability to assimilate radar) in Ys and not having radar (and say that Tesla will allow retrofit of radars into HW4 Ys down the line IFFF.. it’s actually a temporary supply issue).
TL;DR - confusion
How will 2 Ys with and without radar perform as far as FSD/even basic AP is concerned - seems like it’ll create more issues in supporting 2 versions of their live operational systems and divert their energy. Interesting way to operate though.
If only Elon cleared this confusion favorably for those with this ‘in between’ hardware using his favorite Twitter!!
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