since going digital I don't even know where half my CD's are anymore, same for DVD's for that matter! Gradually they have gone the way of vinyl in our house... I don't buy them any more, barely have anything to even play them on. have you tried bluetoothing Spotify? I'm a Pandora fanatic but all my friends tell me Spotify is the way to go for hearing what you want when you want to.
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Disappointed in the media situation so far (No CD player in Model S)
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Maybe it's a german thing then, because there is no such option for the Leaf.
AustinPowers
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That's an attitude I really hate about some "young" people, sorry to say.
Just because CDs have been around since 1980 they are still not an outdated medium. Hell, even Vinyls are becoming ever more popular again!
The more "things" are made "invisible" (Music as files, often just streamed, Cloud computing instead of physical hard drives in your computer, audio books instead of real books, etc.), the more many people feel an urge for more physical stuff again. Perhaps not people like you, but many others, myself included. I like to look at my CD collection, choose a certain cherished album, marvel at the cover art and the effort that went into the booklet (yes I like to hold it in my hand instead of looking at it on a screen - how old school and backward), then take out the CD/SACD and pop it into my high-end sound system and listen to music at its best possible quality.
The thought of listening to some compressed (best streamed) music "soundalike" makes me shudder. If you want to poison your ears, fine by me, if you want to ruin your eyes by only using computer screens anymore, fine as well. I am happy to not have to bring myself to that.
I still read physical books.
I still listen to music on oldfashioned media like CD or Vinyl.
I still use a PC instead of a tablet.
I still use a mobile phone, not a smartphone.
Ok, so this makes me an "old" guy, backward, out-of-time, possibly retarded even, because I haven't seen the light of total dependence on online services, rip-offs like Apple or other institutions that just want to sell me stuff all the time, at their own disgression, right?
If the answer is yes, then I am happy to be such an old guy from ages ago like 1999. Perhaps I should return to my cave now...
Yep. It became that easy many years ago w/software like Musicmatch Jukebox and iTunes coming later. There are obviously many others.
I remember the crappy old days of many CD-ROM drives not supporting DAE while some were real slow or unreliable at it. Then, I had to use random utilities to rip to .WAV then a command line transcoder which took forever on CPUs of that era. One had to name their songs right manually and organize them. Then, sync/copy to MP3 player software was pretty lousy and early flash-based MP3 players had pitiful storage (had a Diamond Rio PMP 300 then 500).
My receiving a free click-wheel 20 gig iPod thanks to TiVo rewards points (program long defunct) along w/using iTun changed everything for me.
AustinPowers
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I don't think such services exist here, at least I have never heard of any. Then again, I wouldn't send all of my CDs to some service anyway, hell knows how they would treat them, if some were lost in transport, etc. And above all that I should have to pay quite some money for something that isn't really much use to me.
And of course I know how to rip CDs in general, I have done it with some for years, it's just up to now I didn't see much sense in it as I don't use music files a lot.
And if one day no car had a CD player anymore, I could still just listen to radio. It's not that I would absolutely need my own music in my car at all, since listening to music in a car is just an add-on anyway. One should concentrate on driving first and foremost. That is why I don't mind that my changer in the trunk has just 6 slots (plus the seventh CD that can go directly into the player in the dash). And playlists or cover art I don't need either while driving. What for? As mentioned above, I concentrate on driving my car, watching out that none of the other idiots on the roads kills my family and myself with their driving style - often neglecting traffic for using their mobile, searching for songs in their playlists etc. Many accidents happen because people don't focus on driving. I don't think a big screen with album art and thousands of song titles to choose and constantly change helps focussing on traffic...
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Why are you assuming that you have to convert/compress the audio when transferring it from CD/SACD to USB key?
All my CD tracks were ripped as raw WAV files and stored directly on my USB key.
But you don't read on scrolls? But you don't listen to music on 8-track? But don't use a typewriter? But you don't use a landline phone?
You do like advancements in technology, but just what you're used to. A lot of us are no different. We just like the latest and greatest.
Yep, and I hear vinyl guys complaining about the crappy quality of CDs, so "poisoning" your ears is relative.
AustinPowers
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Of course I use a landline phone as my main means of communications. My mobile phone is for emergencies or when I'm underway.
But you're right, I like what I'm used to.
And I like new tech, when I see an advantage for me. DVDs are a perfect example. Before them I had quite a few (i.e. around 300) VHS tapes (bought as well as self-recorded). I also had several audio cassettes with music/audio books. But from the getgo I hated that rewinding/forwarding and the bad quality. When CDs/DVDs became available, they were (and still are imho) the perfect medium. Instant access, high quality, and with DVDs the option to listen to films in several languages, with or without subtitles, watch bonus material etc. So I switched from VHS/audio cassettes to DVD/CD. I also have some BluRay discs, but no films that I already have on DVD, as the quality difference often isn't very noticable (at least with those films/series I have, which are often not of the best quality source material).
I just can't see any advantage for me in media files (especially cloud/streaming services) and therefor don't see them as "the latest and greatest".
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To each his own. I'm very glad NOT to have all those CD's cluttering up my car. Losing them. Putting the wrong one in the wrong case. A USB with every CD I own in Lossless format takes up a heck of a lot less space.
The MS offers a bevvy of tech options. We have the internet radio options, USB, bluetooth, and satilite radio. I regularly stream Pandora, Google Play, and other services from my phone and with AD2P the album art work shows on the screen along with the ability to switch between tracks and play/pause. Short of playing physical media the car really has everything.
I am a little bit biased since I haven't actually listened to a physical CD in years though so it isnt something that I miss at all.
I am a little bit biased since I haven't actually listened to a physical CD in years though so it isnt something that I miss at all.
Interesting! Does this work well for you? If that's the case, and you have an LTE-capable phone, it pretty much kills the need to have an LTE-enabled Tesla from the get-go!
I have a LTE phone so streaming is easy via bluetooth. Both the car and my phone are AT&T so if one doesn't have a good signal both don't.
With this being said, you have to modify the Pandora app to make it send art work over AD2P when using android. It's easy to do and there are instructions on the Web. The iPhone app does this automatically.
In addition to higher quality "at purchase", DVDs and CDs offer sustained high quality -- i.e. there aren't the warping and corruption effects that VHS and cassette tapes had.
Similarly, one advantage that you can readily see (heh) with USB/SSD rips of DVDs is that you can scratch a DVD and it's ruined (100% loss of quality). This can happen quite easily when dropping or simply handling the discs repeatedly. I have zero examples in my personal history of ruining a USB key by handling it or dropping it whereas I have dozens of examples for DVDs and CDs.
It usually only takes a few seconds to convert the wav files from a CD to flac. The tools I use automatically do this when ripping CDs. I just pop in a CD and out pops a folder full of flac files. The ripping itself takes much longer than the conversion. With flac I can store twice as much on a USB key with no loss in quality.
