So tell me, if it is so much worse than a *BAD INFLUENZA OUTBREAK* ( i never said just another flu - that implies it is similar to the average flu, which it is not ) why the total mortality isn't significantly different?
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So tell me, if it is so much worse than a *BAD INFLUENZA OUTBREAK* ( i never said just another flu - that implies it is similar to the average flu, which it is not ) why the total mortality isn't significantly different?
SageBrush
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Even the most prestigious medical science journal in the world has taken the unheard of step of calling for a president who is not a moron.
The British medical journal The Lancet published an editorial calling for a president to take office in 2021 who "will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics."
The British medical journal The Lancet published an editorial calling for a president to take office in 2021 who "will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics."
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Daniel in SD
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It's simple, the pandemic isn't over yet.
In some regions it is far worse than a bad influenza outbreak and there is no reason to believe that the same thing couldn't happen elsewhere. Even in those hard hit regions the number of people infected is low and no reason to believe that far more people would not be infected without continued suppression efforts (which include both voluntary behavioral changes and governmental action).
bkp_duke
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bkp_duke
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Ugh . . . my wife took her first shift of veterinary work today in 2.5 months. She gets there, and NO ONE is wearing masks except her. Not the staff, the vets, or the clients.
We are a country of F-ing dumbasses.
We are a country of F-ing dumbasses.
AlanSubie4Life
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That is terrible to hear. Masks are required in San Diego County (when you may be reasonably expected to come within 6 feet of another person)! Not good news at all - I have seen most people being quite good about using a mask in high contact situations.
I guess this explains why we can’t get our case counts down.
Great arguments you guys have. I'll come back when we have May data.
SageBrush
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It's a bit hard to believe that this has to spelled out.
Next thing you know @GFernandes will be telling us that jumping off a cliff is no big deal because those who did not jump are just fine.
Or don't? At this point, the "bad flu" argument is starting to sound a lot like that old war cry of the climate deniers... "but... the volcanoes!"
bkp_duke
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We've replied multiple times, you just don't want to believe anything but your own viewpoint. You are like Trump in that regards.
How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu? | Live Science
SIMPLE and SHORT article.
Salient data (for USA):
CDC Infuenza Estimates - 39-59 mil cases annually, with 24,000 to 62,000 deaths.
CDC COVID-19 to date - 1.4 mil cases, with 85,000 and counting deaths.
EVEN IF we have undercounted cases by 10X-20X, that is just a SMALL FRACTION of the population that has been infected.
I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Mortality rates are way way way higher in 2 months, than the full annualized impact of the worst flu season. DESPITE A FULL LOCKDOWN. I don't really know where the influenza comparison comes from
74,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Outbreak
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SageBrush
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This is the main point. You need flu seasons with global lockdowns to have any hope of a valid comparison.
X Fan
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Sorry, I had to laugh at this one (having run a UK company, I can attest that British elite are quite often left leaning)....btw: Biden can barely comprehend questions these days and has difficulty even reading off a teleprompter lol: latest Biden gaffe-85K jobs: Twitter. Hopefully, his female running mate will be someone who is capable because I highly doubt he would finish his first term and the thought of Pelosi leading our Country is frightening.
FWIW: our political class (both parties) is perhaps the weakest in our Country's history and certainly the worst of my 60+ years.
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Just went and saw my grandmother. Today is likely her last day of consciousnesses and I couldn't even get her to wake up, only move her mouth a bit so I could say my goodbyes.
I've never heard of a bad influenza outbreak killing off 10% of a facility's residents within a month despite having everything in lock down and my grandmother spending the last two months of her life eating alone on her bed every day, unable to leave her room and unable to see her friends. The last day before the lock down they had one final meal where they were told what was to come and why. Those who were able to got up and danced, had a few drinks, said their goodbyes to their friends and then went into isolation to still get infected and die alone.
I'm heartbroken for her. Will miss her dearly.
I've never heard of a bad influenza outbreak killing off 10% of a facility's residents within a month despite having everything in lock down and my grandmother spending the last two months of her life eating alone on her bed every day, unable to leave her room and unable to see her friends. The last day before the lock down they had one final meal where they were told what was to come and why. Those who were able to got up and danced, had a few drinks, said their goodbyes to their friends and then went into isolation to still get infected and die alone.
I'm heartbroken for her. Will miss her dearly.
“Collective mind control”
Gee, coronavirus really is gonna create a new generation of conspiratards. Should not be totally shocking given Erroll Musk is a big conspiracy guy too.
I look forward to the day when it’s embarrassing to be anti-expert again in our society (see Rand Paul rant the other day to Fauci)
Elon Musk on Twitter
Gee, coronavirus really is gonna create a new generation of conspiratards. Should not be totally shocking given Erroll Musk is a big conspiracy guy too.
I look forward to the day when it’s embarrassing to be anti-expert again in our society (see Rand Paul rant the other day to Fauci)
Elon Musk on Twitter
scottf200
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SageBrush
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Ahh .. the Lancet is just another 'left leaning elite' you ignore ? I presume you paint science with the same brush.
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