Doggydogworld
Active Member
Seems to be around 5pm GMT.
He generates a powerful reality distortion field. That's helpful in some cases, not so much here.
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Coronavirus
- Thread starter Wenche
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It doesn’t take many asymptomatic carriers to be in a group in the midwest or areas where the count is low to infect a wide group of people and set off infection exponentially due to how highly infectious this is. I think it only takes weeks to see the results, compare numbers to other areas already infected and realize what lies ahead.
MXLRplus
Active Member
Starbucks remains open. FCA, General Motors, and Ford close down. Crazy world.
Is overpriced coffee actually a critical industry?
Is overpriced coffee actually a critical industry?
jhm
Well-Known Member
Another chart for us to ponder. This one shows cumulative deaths per million inhabitants.
Apparently the US is not so far along in its experience curve, still less than 1 death per million. Hubei Province is a good benchmark around 50 death per million. Italy has already blown past this. Many other European countries look exceed the Hubei death rate. An older age distribution can contribute to this. But an overwhelmed health care system is also a huge risk for accelerating cumulative deaths.
So where is the US? I think we are early enough in our experience curve that we really don't know how this will impact us sociologically. The deaths will easily grow 10X in about a week (I'm not trying to make a precise forecast here.) How will we process this when deaths are up ten-fold. The pandemic is just now starting to feel "real" for many Americans. We are just barely waking up from our collective denial. But as the deaths rise, perceptions of the pandemic will change.
TMCers like to poke fun at legacy automakers and the oil industry for how easily they dismiss the EV disruption simply because EVs have been such a small fraction of total automobiles. It is easy for them to shake off worries and indulge in denialist fantasies while the scale of EVs are trivially small. But the fleet of EVs continue to grow exponentially (even when there is slow growth y/y in new EVs sold). But year after year, the EV fleet is growing and reaching new scale. But eventually, EVs reach critical scales where denial is no longer an option. On the pro-EV side we like to think we are immune to this sort of denial of disruption that we see so clearly in our competitors. But sadly, when a pandemic is disrupting our own expectations for Tesla, it is easy for us to fall into the same denial trap.
So take a deep breath and tell yourself, "I see this disruption. I accept that my life will be disrupted."
Edit, the creator of this chart said that not all countries have updated their stats. So some of the sideways movement on the last day (for example, see Italy) is probably just a reporting lag, not a real flatting out of death rates.
Apparently the US is not so far along in its experience curve, still less than 1 death per million. Hubei Province is a good benchmark around 50 death per million. Italy has already blown past this. Many other European countries look exceed the Hubei death rate. An older age distribution can contribute to this. But an overwhelmed health care system is also a huge risk for accelerating cumulative deaths.
So where is the US? I think we are early enough in our experience curve that we really don't know how this will impact us sociologically. The deaths will easily grow 10X in about a week (I'm not trying to make a precise forecast here.) How will we process this when deaths are up ten-fold. The pandemic is just now starting to feel "real" for many Americans. We are just barely waking up from our collective denial. But as the deaths rise, perceptions of the pandemic will change.
TMCers like to poke fun at legacy automakers and the oil industry for how easily they dismiss the EV disruption simply because EVs have been such a small fraction of total automobiles. It is easy for them to shake off worries and indulge in denialist fantasies while the scale of EVs are trivially small. But the fleet of EVs continue to grow exponentially (even when there is slow growth y/y in new EVs sold). But year after year, the EV fleet is growing and reaching new scale. But eventually, EVs reach critical scales where denial is no longer an option. On the pro-EV side we like to think we are immune to this sort of denial of disruption that we see so clearly in our competitors. But sadly, when a pandemic is disrupting our own expectations for Tesla, it is easy for us to fall into the same denial trap.
So take a deep breath and tell yourself, "I see this disruption. I accept that my life will be disrupted."
Edit, the creator of this chart said that not all countries have updated their stats. So some of the sideways movement on the last day (for example, see Italy) is probably just a reporting lag, not a real flatting out of death rates.
MXLRplus
Active Member
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Rather than invest in face mask production for the entire nation, the trump sociopath has decided to give the the airlines 50B to cover their stock buybacks in 2019.
That should do wonders to tap down the epidemic
That should do wonders to tap down the epidemic
X Fan
Active Member
NY State moving to lock down...appropriate.
Gov Cuomo press conference. He says in NY State, right now, they are testing right now more per capita than China and South Korea.
Gov Cuomo press conference. He says in NY State, right now, they are testing right now more per capita than China and South Korea.
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Knightowl
Whovian
FWIW to anyone with asthma that gets this covid19 crap, I am at day 11 and struggling to avoid ER.
My wife made a garlic salve that is rubbed into my chest and back so from both sides of lungs and have noticed it really helps improve things for a while, just have to keep up regular application I guess as it seems to weirdly enough be just as helpful or more as all my asthma medications, application is supposed to be every 4hrs but I have only used it maybe 2x daily, and not everyday but do notice the difference for a few hours after used, so I will have to get better about applying it. Get an old shirt to wear after it is applied, takes 15min to soak into the skin. Slightly repulsive, smells delicious, but seemingly works.
8 cloves garlic
2/3 cup coconut oil
3 tablespoons olive oil
blend smooth in blender and stored in fridge for up to 2 weeks
survive
My wife made a garlic salve that is rubbed into my chest and back so from both sides of lungs and have noticed it really helps improve things for a while, just have to keep up regular application I guess as it seems to weirdly enough be just as helpful or more as all my asthma medications, application is supposed to be every 4hrs but I have only used it maybe 2x daily, and not everyday but do notice the difference for a few hours after used, so I will have to get better about applying it. Get an old shirt to wear after it is applied, takes 15min to soak into the skin. Slightly repulsive, smells delicious, but seemingly works.
8 cloves garlic
2/3 cup coconut oil
3 tablespoons olive oil
blend smooth in blender and stored in fridge for up to 2 weeks
survive
X Fan
Active Member
C'mon, there you go again with childish name calling & political rant......as an intelligent Physician I don't understand why you need to communicate that way.
Transportation is an essential industry & important for national security.
You obviously haven't run a company and must lean toward a non-Capitalistic society.
FWIW: when I ran companies, I had 3 constituents to service: clients, employees, investors.
If you follow the airline industry, and particularly as their finances improved from the "Lehman shock", they gave big raises to their employees and were right to reward investors as well.
Now, the third one, clients: only Delta has done a decent job there.....AA & UA, the pits, Jet Blue OK as well.
You can probably put the extra on bread too.
Hang in there. I'm fighting something off myself. I have allergy induced asthma so normally not a problem but we will see.
Our local Starbucks is drive-through only. Seems reasonable.
X Fan
Active Member
Stay well....best pathway is to avoid the hospital but if you turn for worse don't hesitate to go.
I see Musk understanding that the automotive industry is critical to the economy of localities, States and this Nation. Just ask Germany and that was before C19 arrived on the scene. As a nation and locally I do see it as being a vital component of supplying jobs and also income to the States/municipalities to pay for programs. Something has to pay for all these costs going forward and let’s face it the Gov’t has cut back money to states now for years on everything from education on.
I will say I was surprised that the same precautions (ie masks) that we’ve seen implemented in GigaChina and GigaNevada haven’t looked to be in place in the Factory. Guessing because of no masks to be found to distribute and no help from Gov’t on that front unlike what GigaChina got from the Chinese government.
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Our local Peet’s is not, although they’ve switched to take-out only.
No gloves, no masks. Seems like a small thing to ask of food service and other workers exposed to the public given we are shutting down most other businesses.
Very interesting. Perhaps this is just my confirmation bias talking, but that's how the disease has been "feeling" for a while - higher R0 (but R able to be effectively lowered by control policies, such as in China and South Korea), and a low IFR, with the CFR being misleadingly high due to how small a percentage of cases have been caught by testing.
MXLRplus
Active Member
Perhaps not for the employees. Not all Starbucks have drive-throughs. Half life of C19 on plastic is ~7h IIRC.
Remember that.
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
Until one of the baristas gets sick and hands out SARS-CoV-2 with every cup that comes out of the drive-through.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
I could not care less how you pander to your investors, so long as you do not force me to pay for it.
Capitalism, not crony capitalism
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