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  1. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It won't be built. Instead they will bring "new models" to market sooner, built on 3/Y production lines. They said almost nothing about these new models, except they'll combine some new stuff with some old stuff which is too obvious to be meaningful. Some new models will be more affordable, some...
  2. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    I can't imagine Alphabet is the least bit pleased with Waymo's progress. But they're stuckvestors. And it's best to preempt analyst questions vs. dance around "how many more billion are you willing to lose?" or "how will you counter Tesla's imminent Robotaxi rollout?" :) Thinking further on...
  3. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The first "off-road" variant would only expand breadth a little, but could get to market quickly. It could have a different name, despite the similar sheet metal underneath. The SUV-shaped variant would expand breadth a lot. Similar to a jump from RAV4 over Highlander all the way to Grand...
  4. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I agree. It'll be built in Shanghai, which serves Europe and Asia. Shanghai serves the whole world, for that matter, except the US which doesn't buy small cars anyway..Shanghai has the lowest costs and doesn't need unboxed, so it's the obvious choice for a lower cost vehicle. Shanghai can also...
  5. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Europe had sky-high gas taxes for decades, yet EVs were only 3-4% of the market until EU 95g mandated an overnight ramp to 20% in 2020-21.
  6. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is along the same lines as my thinking yesterday. Today is a new day, so time for a new theory :) IMHO Tesla will build multiple new models starting in early 2025: Early 2025 - "off-road" variant of Model Y. Little/no sheet metal changes, mostly lift kit and plastic cladding. Costs more...
  7. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, China wants to beat Japan, Korea and the West as the third world's preferred auto supplier. But the main motivation behind China's EV push is to eliminate oil imports. They don't need 100% EV sales for that, but do need >50%. It's not about climate, just economics and geopolitics. Often...
  8. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    Ford Q1 US BEV sales were +86% y/y, to 20k+. But that's sales to end customers. These revenue charts are based on wholesale to dealers. They barely shipped any Lightnings to dealers in Q1 2024. Partly due to production issues, but mostly dealers needed to clear out old inventory before stocking...
  9. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    1. Interest rates aren't high, they were just low for a freakishly long period 2. Monthly payment on 30k loan for 5 years - 6% interest = 579.98 3% interest = 539.06 It's not nothing, but most people got raises. ICE sales are doing fine. Tesla's main issue was a limited, aging lineup. Which...
  10. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Shortened/lengthened wheelbases and different bodies are pretty common. Mercedes Factory 56 line builds S Class and Maybach in varying wheelbases. Honda and Toyota are especially known for multiple models on the same line. Here's a 5 year old article about a new type of line Toyota was playing...
  11. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I have to think all lenders require gap insurance.
  12. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    50% is wildly optimistic for 2025 IMHO. Great point. I expect to first see something like an "off-road" Model Y with the same sheet metal but different name. More rugged fascia, lifted, all-terrain tires, maybe plastic cladding a la Cybertruck wheel wells and options available for roof racks...
  13. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    "This would help us fully utilize our current expected maximum capacity of close to three million vehicles" The stated capacity today is greater than 2,350,000. How much greater? We don't know, but they lowball Shanghai by at least 100k and the existing ">125k" Cybertruck line is designed for...
  14. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    I've seen more examples of Waymo bad driving recently than ever before. Part of this is because they're driving more miles, but I also think they dialed up the aggressiveness. Maybe too much.
  15. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    Brad is on Reddit, you could ask him. It could be in AZ, as you say, or I think it also could have been in San Francisco under Waymo's deployment permit instead of their testing permit.
  16. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Maybe, I don't have a good feel for that. Yeah, I probably should have said "mothballed". They can call anything a Model 2, of course. But IMHO they won't build the Model 2 they spent the last couple years designing in 2025 (or 2026). Their 3/Y manufacturing lines are pretty hardwired. It'll...
  17. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think it's smart. Other OEMs have long built many different "models" from the same basic car. If they use different model names it could knock Model Y from the #1 spot, though. Polished body dies take a long time, that's why I think any new model that starts production before 2H25 as...
  18. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It means they won't build any new factories for a while. I think the market is interpreting this as 3m/year soon. But that depends on how the new 3/Y variants sell.
  19. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It means Model 2 is dead, instead they'll build lower cost 3/Y variants on existing production lines. These variants might have some newer features, like 48V. They won't be 25k, but probably a few thousand less than current 3/Y. I expect some variants will have body mods, e.g. maybe a Y with a...
  20. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla has a negative cash conversion cycle. Operating assets generate FCF during growth, drain cash when they shrink. It's the opposite of most companies. Q1 exacerbated this with a huge inventory build.
  21. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yeah, it's not next-gen, just stripped-down 3/Ys built on existing lines.
  22. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    Every millisecond? Are you sure? I think their lidar is 20 Hz, i.e. 50 ms. Video is usually 24-60 fpg, so 16-41 ms. I don't know about radar, but overall I doubt they recalculate more often than once every 20-30 ms. Note that 30 ms is about one meter on the highway, only about a foot in city...
  23. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    I gave timestamps from that video, so I obviously watched some of it (first ~5 minutes + a couple snippets). I don't agree. We don't know what it describes. NNs produce guesses based on coefficients defined during training. We don't know how they trained this NN. If it's truly E2E there may be...
  24. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    Here is some of the worst Waymo driving I've seen. The unicycles (plus a couple scooters) were moving fast enough that Waymo should have just stayed in the lane and followed them. Instead it crossed the double yellow and drove toward oncoming traffic for 40 seconds! It only got back in the legal...
  25. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    Ford plays accounting games. A classic MBA 101 method divides products into 3 groups: Dogs - low/no growth, low profit Cows - low/no growth, high profit Stars - high growth, (eventual) high profit The prof then profoundly says "kill the dogs, milk the cows and invest in the stars". Ford told...
  26. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    My point is an E2E system doesn't "know" anything. It doesn't know there's a bike or a car or a lane to the right or whatever. It's just a huge equation with a billion fixed coefficients. This language engine, for lack of a better word, simply makes stuff up. Here's a question: how do you train...
  27. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    I wouldn't say with each drive. More likely that cars flag potential map issues and alert HQ, which then has a process to decide if a map update makes sense. If they dynamically updated maps then six Waymos wouldn't have followed the first one into trouble when construction cones forced all...
  28. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Also says road is clear at 5:03 despite pedestrian crossing. Also says "Reducing speed for the cyclist" at 0:19 when 1) it doesn't reduce speed and 2) the cyclist has moved safely behind some parked cars. And "Moving to right lane" at 0:53 when there's only one lane (except oncoming traffic...
  29. Doggydogworld

    Free supercharging transfer

    You're right. Had one dealer tell me his 2015 85D did not originally come with free Supercharging. "Only 2013s came with it"! I suspect the same. Unfortunately that limits me to private sellers. Used Tesla prices fell so fast many private sellers are actually asking MORE than dealers, which is...
  30. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    Your chart proves my point. Waymo grew very fast from the 10x/year statement until October. Then they slowed drastically to a 2.5x/year rate. I wonder what could have happened in October? Oh yeah, their only competitor self-vaporized. The pressure to grow is gone.
  31. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    Yes, very weird. The visualization shows a red traffic light at 3:40. It switches to green at 3:47 then disappears after a few seconds. Then a red stop sign symbol appears out of nowhere! There is no actual stop sign I can see, not even a hand-held one or a T-shirt or store ad or something. The...
  32. Doggydogworld

    Poll: What will be the biggest 8/8 event headline?

    Elon will show a Robotaxi operating in traffic without a safety driver He'll also claim: 1. Tesla Robotaxi Network in 10 cities in 2025, 100+ cities in 2027 2. Austin will build 1+ million Robotaxis in 2026 3. A multi-trillion dollar market by 2030 4. Competitors have 12-18 months to match...
  33. Doggydogworld

    Free supercharging transfer

    Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm looking at some 85D/90Ds and have questions. I required FUSC. Private sellers generally know if their car has FUSC or not. Some dealer ads will say FUSC or no FUSC, but most dealers have no idea even when you ask. Works great for private party sellers...
  34. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Yes, with chase car and/or passengers in car with big red stop button. Yandex did empty driver's seat / big red button demos in Vegas years ago. No lengthy permit process required. Keep the speeds low so any accident is minor. Throw out lots of AI jargon to impress the gullible. Announce...
  35. Doggydogworld

    Waymo

    That's a lot slower than the 10x/year growth they talked about last summer. More like 4x/year. IMHO they slowed dramatically when Cruise got sidelined. At 4x/year they reach Uber size around 2030.
  36. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    I believe he'll demo a podcar driving in traffic on public streets without a safety driver. Not in California, but a state with lax regulations like NV or AZ. At this point a static podcar display combined with more staged videos and a rehash of five year old promises from Autonomy Day 2019...
  37. Doggydogworld

    Near-future quarterly financial projections

    Breaking out leased cars and assuming ASP and margin carry over from Q4, I get Auto Sales Revenue: 16.5b, COGS 13.75b Leasing: 500m Rev, 300m Exp Reg credits a crapshoot, as usual, so 500m ASP is helped by CT but hurt by a slight mix shift away from S/X/CT toward 3/Y. Discounting maybe picked...
  38. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    IMHO Tesla will never do Robotaxis. Outside the back of an envelope the business model sucks. Musk has moved on. Fembot is his new love. FSD sales to end users is much more lucrative than Robotaxi. Empty seat is a huuuuge leap. It has to be 1000x safer than a sober driver because liability...
  39. Doggydogworld

    Autonomous Car Progress

    Tesla did it with a few cameras and a rigged video. Well, at least the profitable part.....
  40. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    Dealer inventory is the collateral for the floorplan loan. GM, F, etc. know the minute that title transfers to the end customer.
  41. Doggydogworld

    Touring US with camper trailer and FUSC -- Bad Idea or Really Bad Idea?

    That explains what I remembered, probably from this Electrek article. Glad to hear it stabilized after the initial degradation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought 1st Gen 90 packs were just 85 packs with a new generation of higher density 18650s in them. Then later they came out with an...
  42. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    Legally and financially the sale to the dealer happens when the factory loads the vehicle on the truck or train GM immediately counts those sales as revenue on the income statements it files with the SEC But these "2nd day after the quarter ends" press releases count sales to end users, not...
  43. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    Nope. Other OEMs recognize revenue upon sale to the dealer, but they track and report end-user sales. Some are up, some down but overall Q1 sales grew a a few % y/y and are forecast to grow a couple percent for the full year to just under 16m vehicles. Tesla's sales slump is indeed...
  44. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    S/W maybe, but they have plenty of experience with low drag (e.g. Prius). And HEV/PHEV battery management is tougher than BEV. The Japanese are all behind, but Toyota is the best positioned of the lot. They really need to build a LFP supply chain. If the market truly goes BEV-crazy next year I...
  45. Doggydogworld

    Touring US with camper trailer and FUSC -- Bad Idea or Really Bad Idea?

    I'm mostly looking at 90D, though I've heard usable battery capacity isn't much more than the 85D. The few 100Ds I see don't have FUSC. Thanks for the warning about RWD and P versions, confirms what I've heard elsewhere about seal problems with the large drive units. Good tip, I hadn't thought...
  46. Doggydogworld

    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    His DJT holdings alone are worth $5 billion /s 47k increase, total inventory now 145k cars. BYD Q1 is always way down from Q4. They grew sales 14% y/y, Tesla declined 8.5%. Storage deployments grew 4% y/y.
  47. Doggydogworld

    The demise of the OEMs

    BYD is always highly seasonal. That's why TSLAQ touts BYD's Q4 numbers then goes radio silent in Q1. BYD's Q1 deliveries were up 14% y/y vs. Tesla down 8.5%.
  48. Doggydogworld

    Touring US with camper trailer and FUSC -- Bad Idea or Really Bad Idea?

    Great job customizing your Bushwacker! Especially the extra room. (Nice blue boxes, too :) I've thought about a 10HD, but would probably go bigger. Maybe an Aliner or a teardrop with a shower. I saw a nice Helio. I can see why Model X would be better for a bigger trailer, but why a Y? It has a...
  49. Doggydogworld

    Touring US with camper trailer and FUSC -- Bad Idea or Really Bad Idea?

    So I want to explore the US for a couple years with a small or mid-size trailer. I planned to buy a used Toyota pickup because "EVs suck for towing", but I'm intrigued by the idea of a Model S with free Supercharging. I'll add solar to the camper and it'd be fun to play around with projects like...
  50. Doggydogworld

    Russia/Ukraine conflict

    This makes no sense. There is no vote scheduled, nor will there be until after Johnson allows a vote on Ukraine aid. The Democrats have no way to "turn up the heat" via motion to vacate. They have a carrot ("if it happens we'll vote to keep you"), but no stick.