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Picking my X up next Saturday. I did not get Enhanced Auto Pilot. I intend to add it after I've driven the car for awhile since it is just a software upgrade.Hello Everyone,
Just wanted to get an idea on how many people do not plan on getting Enhanced Auto Pilot when they get their Model 3. I have been going back and forth on this. Sometimes I think I want to get it now and other times I think that I should just save my money. My wife and I do not do a lot of long drives and I know this is where many people who have autopilot is best served. Also, I was really wanting the pre-collision mitigation and from what I understand, this will come standard on the car.
Wanted to get your thoughts.
Thanks!
The "marginal cost" of EAP is how much more it will cost Tesla if I buy my M3 with EAP as opposed to without it; alternatively it is how much money will Tesla save if I don't purchase EAP on my M3. In either case the answer is zero. Hence, the marginal cost of EAP is zero.
There are primarily two relevant economic pricing models: 1) pricing in competitive markets; and 2) pricing in a monopolistic markets.
In fully competitive markets, producers are price takers, not price makers; and price equals marginal cost of production (e.g. commodities markets).
In monopolistic markets the producer is the price maker (wholesale diamonds)*; and the producer will set the price to maximize profits--which would be much lower than $5000 as shown in my post above.
Accordingly, depending on how competitive the market for the M3 is, the "market clearing" price for EAP should be somewhere between $0.00 and much lower than $5000.
*In the last decade, OPEC oil prices have gone from monopolistic to competitive.
This is unacceptable: Video: Tesla Owner Shows Off Autopilot StrugglesReading from the negative experiences of AP20 that many shared on this forum, I won't be surprised if regulators force
Tesla to pull out steering assist.
I have not driven it myself but some of the comments are downright scary. I can't imagine this being driven by 100k drivers.
I agree. The driver shouldn't be using Autopilot on local roads as Tesla has stated.This is unacceptable: Video: Tesla Owner Shows Off Autopilot Struggles
Perhaps you missed this:I agree. The driver shouldn't be using Autopilot on local roads as Tesla has stated.
Yeah, as far as I remembered Tesla said it was only for divided highways. But now I remember that not long ago they released a "silky smooth" version or something like that. Do you know if this person did the same test after the update?Perhaps you missed this:
Tesla enables Autosteer on ‘local roads’ for new Enhanced Autopilot vehicles
This is unacceptable: Video: Tesla Owner Shows Off Autopilot Struggles
Not sure. But here's the "silky smooth" update video:Yeah, as far as I remembered Tesla said it was only for divided highways. But now I remember that not long ago they released a "silky smooth" version or something like that. Do you know if this person did the same test after the update?
I hear what you're saying. I enjoy the experience of driving a vehicle as well and also love tecnology. However; in my opinion, the technology is heading in the right direction in terms of safety and reduced motor vehicle accidents.Here's a radical thought....we're buying relatively high performance cars...let's just drive them ourselves rather than become passive lumps of bored and distracted protoplasm behind the wheel....let's not emulate the learned helplesness aboard Air France 447.
Yes but do you have any other evidence? Maybe a letter signed by Elon Musk? But be prepared to prove that it is really signed by him.
Hello Everyone,
Just wanted to get an idea on how many people do not plan on getting Enhanced Auto Pilot when they get their Model 3. I have been going back and forth on this. Sometimes I think I want to get it now and other times I think that I should just save my money. My wife and I do not do a lot of long drives and I know this is where many people who have autopilot is best served. Also, I was really wanting the pre-collision mitigation and from what I understand, this will come standard on the car.
Wanted to get your thoughts.
Thanks!
You haven't shown that Tesla would maximize it's profits by lowering the price of EAP. You've just speculated that more people would buy it. Do you have any data on how many people buy it now? How many people opt not to buy it because of price? What price they would theoretically buy it at?
"The higher the percentage of the consumer's income that the product's price represents, the higher the elasticity tends to be, as people will pay more attention when purchasing the good because of its cost;[25][26] The income effect is substantial.[30] When the goods represent only a negligible portion of the budget the income effect will be insignificant and demand inelastic,[30]"
[Wikipedia--price elasticity of demand] In other words, the price elasticity of demand is higher on an $8000 add on for a mass-market (middle-class) product than it would be on an $8000 add on for a luxury (upper-class) product.
Presumably Tesla set the price of FSD at $8000 on the MS in order to maximize profits. Given a greater price elasticity of demand for the M3, the profit maximizing price for FSD would have to be lower.
Reading from the negative experiences of AP20 that many shared on this forum, I won't be surprised if regulators force
Tesla to pull out steering assist.
I have not driven it myself but some of the comments are downright scary. I can't imagine this being driven by 100k drivers.
Consider what lowering the price of FSD for the Model 3 might do to Model S and X sales. If there is any segment of buyers looking to get into an FSD or FSD-potential car having a lower price point for the same FSD feature set could further cannibalize Model S/X sales, which Tesla is trying desperately to avoid...
You hit the nail on the head there. But, unfortunately, it means that Tesla has abandoned its mission statement: "to accelerate the advent of sustainable transport by bringing compelling mass market electric cars to market as soon as possible."(